Should the gaa allow the Liam Miller testimonial in Pairc hi Caoimh - poll

Started by sligoman2, July 24, 2018, 12:59:52 PM

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Should the gaa allow the Liam Millar testimonial to be played in PUC

Yes
126 (70.4%)
No
37 (20.7%)
Not sure
16 (8.9%)

Total Members Voted: 179

Voting closed: July 31, 2018, 12:59:52 PM

sid waddell

Quote from: currychip on July 28, 2018, 11:38:31 PM
What do you think?
I can't read Marty Morissey's mind, but the words "open the floodgates" would seem to strongly imply that there could be some sort of threatening force looming and just waiting for its moment to strike in devastating fashion against the GAA.

I've no idea what that threatening force could be - I certainly don't see too many on the horizon.

Is it obesity, perhaps?

What do you think?

befair

It does beg the question why there are never testimonials for GAA players who have suffered misfortune, without a lucrative professional career

From the Bunker

Quote from: befair on July 29, 2018, 01:47:27 PM
It does beg the question why there are never testimonials for GAA players who have suffered misfortune, without a lucrative professional career

Jez, that would be some tin of worms! Then again Gooch had his own testimonial. What ever misfortune he had as an excuse. Maybe his misfortune was that Dublin came at the tail end of career. And hastened his chances of soft All Irelands against sides like Mayo and Cork!


Milltown Row2

 Harlequins Belfast have rented out their ground for years to Naomi Brid, never any news story about it as it's normal... nobody makes a big deal about it..

This Journalist is very poor at his job, plus a new club opened in Antrim about 3 years ago, again poor journalism
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Wildweasel74

You could nearly reword that newspaper heading, without gaa grounds they couldn't have bid for the rugby World Cup! People have short memories! Was there fundraisers for M Mccarthy and J Keirns family after their misfortune?

sid waddell

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2018, 09:59:55 PM
Harlequins Belfast have rented out their ground for years to Naomi Brid, never any news story about it as it's normal... nobody makes a big deal about it..

This Journalist is very poor at his job, plus a new club opened in Antrim about 3 years ago, again poor journalism
Amazing, isn't it, how those in other sports don't talk about "opening the floodgates" when other sports use their premises?

Well actually, it's not amazing at all, but it is that some in the GAA talk about such.

Why is the journalist poor at his job?

Why is a new club opening in Antrim poor journalism? How is opening a new club journalism at all?  ;D






Milltown Row2

Quote from: sid waddell on July 29, 2018, 10:12:41 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on July 29, 2018, 09:59:55 PM
Harlequins Belfast have rented out their ground for years to Naomi Brid, never any news story about it as it's normal... nobody makes a big deal about it..

This Journalist is very poor at his job, plus a new club opened in Antrim about 3 years ago, again poor journalism
Amazing, isn't it, how those in other sports don't talk about "opening the floodgates" when other sports use their premises?

Well actually, it's not amazing at all, but it is that some in the GAA talk about such.

Why is the journalist poor at his job?

Why is a new club opening in Antrim poor journalism? How is opening a new club journalism at all?  ;D
You read the piece?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

sligoman2

172 votes so far, 70% in favour, 22% against and 8% who used to be indecisive but now are not too sure😀😀.

Glad to see the GAA did the right thing, but they do need to be able to make decisions (even if temporary), a little quicker and they do need to shed some of the shackles and mindset of long ago..
I used to be indecisive but now I'm not too sure.

Baile Brigín 2

Quote from: Rossfan on July 28, 2018, 11:55:19 PM
Quote from: currychip on July 28, 2018, 10:08:11 PM
Which full time officials were incompetent?
Exactly.
It must irritate a lot of critics that the GAA Hierarchy and the Liam Miller Committee sorted things out quietly and amicably in a dignified manner.
Amicible and dignified? Seriously?

sid waddell

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 30, 2018, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 28, 2018, 11:55:19 PM
Quote from: currychip on July 28, 2018, 10:08:11 PM
Which full time officials were incompetent?
Exactly.
It must irritate a lot of critics that the GAA Hierarchy and the Liam Miller Committee sorted things out quietly and amicably in a dignified manner.
Amicible and dignified? Seriously?
The whole thing has been a PR catastrophe for the GAA.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: sid waddell on July 30, 2018, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 30, 2018, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 28, 2018, 11:55:19 PM
Quote from: currychip on July 28, 2018, 10:08:11 PM
Which full time officials were incompetent?
Exactly.
It must irritate a lot of critics that the GAA Hierarchy and the Liam Miller Committee sorted things out quietly and amicably in a dignified manner.
Amicible and dignified? Seriously?
The whole thing has been a PR catastrophe for the GAA.

Aye, they will have lost a few cranky old farts over the head of this.. especially the ones who never played and have an negative opinion on everything... so all in all a WIN WIN
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

RadioGAAGAA

Quote from: sligoman2 on July 30, 2018, 12:37:46 PM
Glad to see the GAA did the right thing, but they do need to be able to make decisions (even if temporary), a little quicker and they do need to shed some of the shackles and mindset of long ago..

Whether they've done the right thing or not will be determined over the next few decades.


The right thing in this instance being disregarding the rules of Congress.
Does this mean the GAA is no longer a democratic organisation?
Does it mean the rules of the GAA are no longer worth the paper they are written on?

While I agree that *in this instance* the majority of members would have been in favour of PUC opening - that might not always be the case -  yet now there is precedent for ignoring the rules and doing whatever pleases you.


What if, at some point in the future, a soccer club with a "glamour" European fixture asks the local county board to play the game in the county ground - at a generous rent price. County board says yes - and kicks a couple of underage finals that were meant to be held that night off the county pitch. Is that OK?

Or maybe more worryingly - if clubs that are finding it hard to make ends meet start renting out their grounds to local soccer clubs in the evenings and forcing their own teams off the pitch(es)?
i usse an speelchekor

Jinxy

I think this is a pretty unique case.
To take the example of the soccer team wanting to use a GAA stadium with a bigger capacity for a competitive game, it wouldn't have anything like the groundswell of support that the Miller charity game has had, and could be easily shot down if necessary.
This goes beyond sport into illness, bereavement, family & community.
Cancer is in the news every day of the week, so when you refuse access to a stadium for a fundraising game on the basis that 'rules is rules', you're pulling in a massive constituency that has no real interest in sport, but cannot understand why everything is not being done to support a charity game for a young husband and father who died of cancer.
As I have said before, congress should separate Croke Park, PUC and a stadium in each of Connacht and Ulster, from the rest of the GAA grounds in the official guide.
Let them run any event they see fit.
If Munster need more capacity for a big European game, let them use PUC.
If Connacht need more capacity, let them use Pearse stadium.
The reality is that there are not a massive amount of big sporting events that would be able to make use of the additional capacity, outside of European Cup rugby games.
If you were any use you'd be playing.

johnnycool

Quote from: sid waddell on July 30, 2018, 01:04:27 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 30, 2018, 12:56:13 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 28, 2018, 11:55:19 PM
Quote from: currychip on July 28, 2018, 10:08:11 PM
Which full time officials were incompetent?
Exactly.
It must irritate a lot of critics that the GAA Hierarchy and the Liam Miller Committee sorted things out quietly and amicably in a dignified manner.
Amicible and dignified? Seriously?
The whole thing has been a PR catastrophe for the GAA.

Whilst I don't think you are wrong, what impact going forward will this PR disaster have on the GAA?

Will sponsors pull out?
Will the attendances drop?