A United Ireland. Opening up the discussion.

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foxcommander

Quote from: OgraAnDun on December 18, 2017, 07:47:28 PM
To a certain extent, they're putting the bigger picture before the party because that is exactly how it would be seen by unionists. As you well know. I'm also doubtful as to how successful they would be up here unless they merged with the DUP.

No way. Fine Gael already called dibs on merging with the DUP.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Rossfan

Quote from: michaelg on December 18, 2017, 08:05:29 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 12, 2017, 10:58:39 AM
If you believe Tony they'll want stricter limits on abortion and the abolition of same sex marriage.
The future All Ireland political entity will be a Confederation of two semi autonomous areas - present 26 and 6 Cos.
The terms of the GFA will continue to apply in the 6 Cos e.g Dual Irish and British citizenship (if "Britain"still exists then).
What's the point then? Doesn't sound much different to current  situation.
All Ireland will be a sovereign State.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

OgraAnDun

Quote from: foxcommander on December 18, 2017, 08:18:19 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on December 18, 2017, 07:47:28 PM
To a certain extent, they're putting the bigger picture before the party because that is exactly how it would be seen by unionists. As you well know. I'm also doubtful as to how successful they would be up here unless they merged with the DUP.

No way. Fine Gael already called dibs on merging with the DUP.

Oops! Meant to say SDLP.

foxcommander

Quote from: OgraAnDun on December 18, 2017, 09:30:59 PM
Quote from: foxcommander on December 18, 2017, 08:18:19 PM
Quote from: OgraAnDun on December 18, 2017, 07:47:28 PM
To a certain extent, they're putting the bigger picture before the party because that is exactly how it would be seen by unionists. As you well know. I'm also doubtful as to how successful they would be up here unless they merged with the DUP.

No way. Fine Gael already called dibs on merging with the DUP.

Oops! Meant to say SDLP.

Is there a difference?? ;)
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

Applesisapples

Last Lucid Talk poll showed Unionism 1 point ahead of Nationalism with 10% or so alliance.


yellowcard

https://ianjamesparsley.wordpress.com/2017/12/19/dup-destroy-the-union-party/

I would agree with much of this article in the sense that the DUP is run by middle class wealthy educated people yet it preys on the fears and insecurities of ordinary working class protestants and is able to maintain the status quo by continuing to do so. It's as much about power, domination, control and personal status as it is about their own people's daily lives for many of these charlatans.   

Rossfan

For the benefit of those who claim to be Nationalists but are stuck in a partitioning mindset and also stuck in the 19 30s -
The Irish Free State went out of existence EIGHTY YEARS AGO today.

#OTD in Irish History – 29 December:  stairnaheireann.net
Constitution Day (Ireland)


1937 – The new Constitution of Ireland (Bunreacht na hÉireann) repealed the 1922 Constitution, and came into effect on this date, after having been passed by a national plebiscite the previous July.

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

heganboy

Interesting poll yesterday.
Quote.     "If it cost the Irish government €9 billion per annum for Northern Ireland to unite with the Republic of Ireland, how would you vote in relation to a referendum on a United Ireland?"

60-40 in favor

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/897526/brexit-irish-border-poll-united-ireland
Never underestimate the predictability of stupidity

T Fearon

More wasted discussion on something that will never happen.

lenny

Quote from: T Fearon on December 29, 2017, 01:59:52 PM
More wasted discussion on something that will never happen.

It will certainly happen, just a matter of when. Brexit has made it more likely to happen much sooner than previously expected. It might take 10 years or it might be 40 but it will inevitably happen.

playwiththewind1st

Quote from: Rossfan on December 29, 2017, 01:01:16 PM
For the benefit of those who claim to be Nationalists but are stuck in a partitioning mindset and also stuck in the 19 30s -
The Irish Free State went out of existence EIGHTY YEARS AGO today.

#OTD in Irish History – 29 December:  stairnaheireann.net
Constitution Day (Ireland)


1937 – The new Constitution of Ireland (Bunreacht na hÉireann) repealed the 1922 Constitution, and came into effect on this date, after having been passed by a national plebiscite the previous July.

Sure - we were completely sold down the river in December 1921. So those bits afterwards don't matter that much.

foxcommander

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 29, 2017, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 29, 2017, 01:01:16 PM
For the benefit of those who claim to be Nationalists but are stuck in a partitioning mindset and also stuck in the 19 30s -
The Irish Free State went out of existence EIGHTY YEARS AGO today.

#OTD in Irish History – 29 December:  stairnaheireann.net
Constitution Day (Ireland)


1937 – The new Constitution of Ireland (Bunreacht na hÉireann) repealed the 1922 Constitution, and came into effect on this date, after having been passed by a national plebiscite the previous July.

Sure - we were completely sold down the river in December 1921. So those bits afterwards don't matter that much.

That's totally irrelevant. Just stop hurting his feelings by saying he's a freestater. As he mentioned it was all resolved by the stroke of a pen 80 years ago.
Every second of the day there's a Democrat telling a lie

red hander

Quote from: hardstation on December 29, 2017, 03:07:33 PM
Quote from: T Fearon on December 29, 2017, 01:59:52 PM
More wasted discussion on something that will never happen.
Like discussing what will or won't gain you entry into heaven.

Touche  ;D

Avondhu star

Quote from: playwiththewind1st on December 29, 2017, 03:34:28 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on December 29, 2017, 01:01:16 PM
For the benefit of those who claim to be Nationalists but are stuck in a partitioning mindset and also stuck in the 19 30s -
The Irish Free State went out of existence EIGHTY YEARS AGO today.

#OTD in Irish History – 29 December:  stairnaheireann.net
Constitution Day (Ireland)


1937 – The new Constitution of Ireland (Bunreacht na hÉireann) repealed the 1922 Constitution, and came into effect on this date, after having been passed by a national plebiscite the previous July.

Sure - we were completely sold down the river in December 1921. So those bits afterwards don't matter that much.

But if that hadnt happened what could ye use to justify the big chips on your shoulders?
In any case it took ye a long time to do anything about it
Lee Harvey Oswald , your country needs you