Westminster Election 12th December 2019

Started by Ambrose, October 29, 2019, 02:24:04 PM

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yellowcard

Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

Labour have flown out of the traps again. Corbyn is at his most comfortable campaigning around the country meeting with ordinary people on bread and butter issues and we are seeing that again. The Tories have had a disastrous start because they live sheltered lives and simply aren't in touch with what is happening outside their own bubble.

BennyHarp

Quote from: TheOptimist on November 06, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

If said it on here in the past. Corbyn wiped the floor with the conservatives in 17. I'm beginning to think the conservatives have learnt nothing. Is "get brexit done" the new "strong and stable"?

With all the half moderate / sensible Conservatives like Nicky Morgan, Amber Rudd, Rory Stewart, Ken Clarke, even Phillip Hammond etc now gone, the ultra lunatics are in charge and they are finding that exposure to the full public glare is a different kettle of fish from shouting from the back benches. These guys are being shown up for what they are and they are floundering. Hopefully they will get the kicking they deserve from the electorate. Unfortunately, I doubt that they will.
That was never a square ball!!

t_mac

Quote from: BennyHarp on November 06, 2019, 02:20:32 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on November 06, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

If said it on here in the past. Corbyn wiped the floor with the conservatives in 17. I'm beginning to think the conservatives have learnt nothing. Is "get brexit done" the new "strong and stable"?

With all the half moderate / sensible Conservatives like Nicky Morgan, Amber Rudd, Rory Stewart, Ken Clarke, even Phillip Hammond etc now gone, the ultra lunatics are in charge and they are finding that exposure to the full public glare is a different kettle of fish from shouting from the back benches. These guys are being shown up for what they are and they are floundering. Hopefully they will get the kicking they deserve from the electorate. Unfortunately, I doubt that they will.

That's just it -  you only have to peruse some right wing rags and their comment sections to see that Conservative do or die voters are akin to DUP voters, no matter what they say or do folk will vote for them.

screenexile

Quote from: magpie seanie on November 06, 2019, 01:13:50 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

You haven't been paying enough attention or you're reading the wrong "newspapers" if you think that's the case.

The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!

five points

Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 02:23:55 PM

The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!

There's two of them at it.

Nightmare interviews yesterday and today for Keir Starmer and Laura Pidcock.

LeoMc

Quote from: five points on November 06, 2019, 02:32:28 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 02:23:55 PM

The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!

There's two of them at it.

Nightmare interviews yesterday and today for Keir Starmer and Laura Pidcock.
His interview or the Tory edit of it?

ziggysego

Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 02:23:55 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 06, 2019, 01:13:50 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

You haven't been paying enough attention or you're reading the wrong "newspapers" if you think that's the case.


The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!

Have your say https://labour.org.uk/manifesto-2019/
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magpie seanie

Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 02:23:55 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on November 06, 2019, 01:13:50 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

You haven't been paying enough attention or you're reading the wrong "newspapers" if you think that's the case.

The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!

There have been several Labour rallies and the Tories have had none. I accept Labout aren't near in full swing and probably mistook the tone of your initial post.

magpie seanie

Quote from: yellowcard on November 06, 2019, 02:12:24 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

Labour have flown out of the traps again. Corbyn is at his most comfortable campaigning around the country meeting with ordinary people on bread and butter issues and we are seeing that again. The Tories have had a disastrous start because they live sheltered lives and simply aren't in touch with what is happening outside their own bubble.

Nail on the head here.

magpie seanie

Quote from: TheOptimist on November 06, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

If said it on here in the past. Corbyn wiped the floor with the conservatives in 17. I'm beginning to think the conservatives have learnt nothing. Is "get brexit done" the new "strong and stable"?

Don't forget "Britain deserves better"!!!!!!  ;D

ziggysego

Quote from: magpie seanie on November 06, 2019, 02:54:52 PM
Quote from: TheOptimist on November 06, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 12:24:10 PM
Has a political campaign ever shot itself in the foot as badly as the Conservatives have the last few days??

Labour haven't even done anything the Tories are just losing the plot!

If said it on here in the past. Corbyn wiped the floor with the conservatives in 17. I'm beginning to think the conservatives have learnt nothing. Is "get brexit done" the new "strong and stable"?

Don't forget "Britain deserves better"!!!!!!  ;D

Surprised I haven't seen "Make Britain Great Again",
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t_mac

Quote from: LeoMc on November 06, 2019, 02:43:24 PM
Quote from: five points on November 06, 2019, 02:32:28 PM
Quote from: screenexile on November 06, 2019, 02:23:55 PM

The campaign is only started and they haven't even released their manifesto or chosen their candidates yet.

They haven't done a whole lot so far but they haven't had to with the Conservatives shooting themselves in the foot so much!

There's two of them at it.

Nightmare interviews yesterday and today for Keir Starmer and Laura Pidcock.
His interview or the Tory edit of it?

Fake news from the Tory party.

seafoid

Quote from: Harold Disgracey on November 06, 2019, 12:03:36 PM
Diane Dodds lives in the constituency and will be out of a job soon, so another possibility.

It would have been interesting if Shagger had have run to see if Doug Beattie would have made any inroads into his vote. O'Dowd would have been well placed if the unionist vote was evenly split, Do£ores Ke££y standing will lessen the chances of this happening.
Doddsy might be in Strasbourg for a good while yet

johnnycool

What's the Alliances latest tweet about?

Someone throwing some personal mud about!

yellowcard

Jeffrey Donaldson and Colum Eastwood had a fairly heated exchange earlier on Talkback over a letter that Jeffrey wrote into today's Newsletter asking whether Sean Kelly would be campaigning for Claire Hanna in South Belfast. Eastwood spoke very well and got Donaldson completely flustered and I think that by the end of the interview that he may have realised that the letter may have backfired on him. Looked like a complete stunt from Jeffrey to try and make it about the IRA again and deflect from any Brexit related issues.

The fact is that the DUP have embraced loyalist paramilitaries more than ever before and have done nothing to try and distance themselves from platform sharing and having meetings with the UDA and UVF. I think its borne out of fear and paranoia in realising that the union is under threat but in doing so they just become even more inward looking and continue to isolate themselves. They just continue to dig themselves ever deeper into their bunkers and I think they might soon have to change their party name to 'ourselves alone'.