China Coronavirus

[Milltown Row2]

AFM, it's probably best to forget your personal grievances with posters and just discuss the topic. You are only annoying yourself and will end up banned again.

Do you not see the hypocrisy, it's an open forum with rules or it is a invited group in which case, pardon the pun, lockdown registrations.

I gave up my fight with the mods a long time ago but I draw a wry smile when I see the faithful beaten.

Unaccountable and let mates say what they want, why publish the rules when they don't apply to mates.

I've no mates here, neither have you, so discuss the threads and stop taking in personally, no one knows you or cares.

If I've upset you I'm sorry.

[armaghniac]

Wonder how many pages this thread will be before shes all over.....

Who knows but we'll all be micro biologists by the end of it

Well you were complaining about a lack of height on the other thread.

[Milltown Row2]

Wonder how many pages this thread will be before shes all over.....

Who knows but we'll all be micro biologists by the end of it

Well you were complaining about a lack of height on the other thread.

And hair!

[Rossfan]

The pubs and restaurants need to close but are the government going to help the owners of these places to pay their mortgages and pay their staff ?

"The Government" is the taxpayer.
Businesses closed means less Revenue. Also means more Social Welfare for the laid off workers.
Banks etc giving mortgage holidays means they'll want bail outs, the Taxpayer won't have the money to do this so will we have banks lending non existent money to Governnents to give it back to banks as bail outs?

So what are you suggesting , profit before people ?

The check out in Lidl or Supervalu or wherever don't do "the book"....
Like the sign in a pub in the North of the County says "In God we trust,  all others pay cash"

[macdanger2]

The Dutch have discovered an antibody that works apparently but it has to be properly tested and mass produced which will take the guts of a year, byt which time this pandemic will have run its course. Herd immunity will happen by that stage, that where 80% of the population will have got the virus and there bodies will have dealt with it and given them immunity from future infection. However that means there will be a lot more deaths to come Im afraid.

Sound. You might just tells what evidence there is to support this herd immunity theory and any real world examples where it worked before.

Does it not work for measles, mumps, Etc, as well as small pox in the past?
Herd immunity does not mean no one gets it, just that enough people are immune to stop it spreading rapidly.

Herd immunity is a thing in that it exists once 80-90% of the population have immunity and therefore there are less people through which the disease can be transmitted. The ones you mention though are artificially created by the use of vaccines. I'm not aware of any instances where this has naturally occurred without the intervention of vaccines; open to correction on that though

[smelmoth]

The Dutch have discovered an antibody that works apparently but it has to be properly tested and mass produced which will take the guts of a year, byt which time this pandemic will have run its course. Herd immunity will happen by that stage, that where 80% of the population will have got the virus and there bodies will have dealt with it and given them immunity from future infection. However that means there will be a lot more deaths to come Im afraid.

Sound. You might just tells what evidence there is to support this herd immunity theory and any real world examples where it worked before.

Does it not work for measles, mumps, Etc, as well as small pox in the past?
Herd immunity does not mean no one gets it, just that enough people are immune to stop it spreading rapidly.

Herd immunity is a thing in that it exists once 80-90% of the population have immunity and therefore there are less people through which the disease can be transmitted. The ones you mention though are artificially created by the use of vaccines. I'm not aware of any instances where this has naturally occurred without the intervention of vaccines; open to correction on that though

Off all the comments on herd immunity this is the closest to the truth. I don't the figure is 80-90%. Typically it's 60-70% but we don't yet know if CoVid19 is going to be typical.

There is no vaccine yet. There doesn't like there will be one for 18 months and we don't know yet if we will be entering the world of seasonal mutations, developing further new vaccines and revaccination.

We don't yet know what will work and without sounding wishing to sound alarmist every course of action looks risky.

At least we are not being told to wear face masks. It's not an airborne virus so unless you are trying to reduce the amount of your own face you touch with your own hand a face mask is as much good as a cotton bud in your left sock

[Milltown Row2]

Who's paying the bills? When this kicks in and lock down happens, how will workers pay their mortgages?

Will the banks give you a bye ball? I doubt it,  will the government force the banks to do it? I doubt a Tory government will enforce that.

Local business, restaurants, bars, cafe's will shut, hotels will close also. Recession again.

Change the title of the thread to, World Coronavirus

[clarshack]

Who's paying the bills? When this kicks in and lock down happens, how will workers pay their mortgages?

Will the banks give you a bye ball? I doubt it,  will the government force the banks to do it? I doubt a Tory government will enforce that.

Local business, restaurants, bars, cafe's will shut, hotels will close also. Recession again.

Change the title of the thread to, World Coronavirus

Most people won't be able to I reckon. Scary times and there's loads of folk out there that still don't realise the consequences of this virus.

[larryin89]

Who's paying the bills? When this kicks in and lock down happens, how will workers pay their mortgages?

Will the banks give you a bye ball? I doubt it,  will the government force the banks to do it? I doubt a Tory government will enforce that.

Local business, restaurants, bars, cafe's will shut, hotels will close also. Recession again.

Change the title of the thread to, World Coronavirus

Mortgages and utility bills will be suspended on lockdown.

[Milltown Row2]

Who's paying the bills? When this kicks in and lock down happens, how will workers pay their mortgages?

Will the banks give you a bye ball? I doubt it,  will the government force the banks to do it? I doubt a Tory government will enforce that.

Local business, restaurants, bars, cafe's will shut, hotels will close also. Recession again.

Change the title of the thread to, World Coronavirus

Most people won't be able to I reckon. Scary times and there's loads of folk out there that still don't realise the consequences of this virus.

There will always be doubters as to the depth of how bad it'll be, I'm not on the scale of doomsday scenario, probably changing that view daily, my parents are the worst case to be in, underlying conditions.

you can only deal with your family in this and take the precautions that are advised, outside of that we'll just have to hope the actual specialists get it right and fast

[larryin89]

Asked about the possibility of mortgage payments being temporarily frozen, the country's deputy finance minister, Laura Castelli, said on Tuesday, "Yes, that will be the case, for individuals and households."

[Milltown Row2]

Asked about the possibility of mortgage payments being temporarily frozen, the country's deputy finance minister, Laura Castelli, said on Tuesday, "Yes, that will be the case, for individuals and households."

Can't see Boris saying that!

Will the army be deployed to ensure people are following the correct isolation procedures?

[LeoMc]

The Dutch have discovered an antibody that works apparently but it has to be properly tested and mass produced which will take the guts of a year, byt which time this pandemic will have run its course. Herd immunity will happen by that stage, that where 80% of the population will have got the virus and there bodies will have dealt with it and given them immunity from future infection. However that means there will be a lot more deaths to come Im afraid.

Sound. You might just tells what evidence there is to support this herd immunity theory and any real world examples where it worked before.

Does it not work for measles, mumps, Etc, as well as small pox in the past?
Herd immunity does not mean no one gets it, just that enough people are immune to stop it spreading rapidly.

Herd immunity is a thing in that it exists once 80-90% of the population have immunity and therefore there are less people through which the disease can be transmitted. The ones you mention though are artificially created by the use of vaccines. I'm not aware of any instances where this has naturally occurred without the intervention of vaccines; open to correction on that though

Good point. I was not differentiating between natural and induced. As there is no vaccine I should have been excluding induced immunity.

[LeoMc]

Who's paying the bills? When this kicks in and lock down happens, how will workers pay their mortgages?

Will the banks give you a bye ball? I doubt it,  will the government force the banks to do it? I doubt a Tory government will enforce that.

Local business, restaurants, bars, cafe's will shut, hotels will close also. Recession again.

Change the title of the thread to, World Coronavirus

Most people won't be able to I reckon. Scary times and there's loads of folk out there that still don't realise the consequences of this virus.

There will always be doubters as to the depth of how bad it'll be, I'm not on the scale of doomsday scenario, probably changing that view daily, my parents are the worst case to be in, underlying conditions.

you can only deal with your family in this and take the precautions that are advised, outside of that we'll just have to hope the actual specialists get it right and fast

When you hear of that pub in Stoneyblatter and see the video doing the rounds I begin to wonder if Boris is getting it right. We need a big death toll to get people to take it seriously.

[larryin89]

Asked about the possibility of mortgage payments being temporarily frozen, the country's deputy finance minister, Laura Castelli, said on Tuesday, "Yes, that will be the case, for individuals and households."

Can't see Boris saying that!

Will the army be deployed to ensure people are following the correct isolation procedures?

Although it's not helpful at all for me to express this at this time but this is the ultimate example of why it is totally nonsensical to have British occupation on the island of Ireland , perhaps it will be one positive out of this horrible situation that even the brits will see its time to f ook off home now .

In the 26 despite the free state army making a statement to deny they were briefed on action that will take place soon , they have been and have fuelled up too since Thursday .

Personally I'd be very anti our establishment political parties but I have to admit they are holding themselves well thus far and have shown genuine compassion for the people they represent imo