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#1
General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
March 11, 2024, 11:21:04 AM
Quote from: thewobbler on March 10, 2024, 10:49:07 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on March 10, 2024, 08:55:03 PMDidn't deliver in the World cup,look that's the problem, the part time supporter not knowing the real layout of the land in Rugby. France was the most heavy favoured team to win on home Ground, then South Africa, followed by Ireland and New Zealand.The top 4 ,there was very little between them and that showed in games. Had Ireland actually been playing at home like France, then they would have been the favourites. The only people saying we were favourites is the Dublin media and people who knew f**k all about Rugby.

Ah you're fully bought in. Fair play to you.

The layout of the land is that Ireland has a unique advantage in international rugby whereby our international team absolutely trumps the needs of club rugby.

It provides us a genuine advantage in that our players our better rested and more closely coached for the international game.

But 20 odd years on we haven't come close to realising this advantage. We use it to build focused teams instead of competitive squads.

As a policy it leaves Ireland as sitting ducks. No matter how well drilled Ireland become - and by God are we well drilled - everyone knows what's coming.

And unless we find a couple of unplayable types like  O'Driscoll at once, then it counts against us.

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On this note. Murray should have been retired from Ireland duty a decade ago.

By accident or design - and honestly I still don't know which - the predominant feature of his game has been shite box kicking. Nobody else does this at this level. Because it's shite, pointless rugby, unless it comes as a surprise.


Don't think this is true at all. Before the professional era Ireland were behind both Scotland and Wales in terms of success. We were miles behind England. Now at club level and international level we are blitzing all 3 of those sides. The idea that we are sacrificing club rugby to boost the national team is simply not supported by the facts.
#2
GAA Discussion / Re: The Advanced Mark
February 27, 2024, 11:58:24 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 27, 2024, 12:42:55 PM
Quote from: Dreadnought on February 27, 2024, 12:26:35 PM
Quote from: trileacman on February 27, 2024, 12:21:19 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 26, 2024, 10:35:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2024, 10:23:26 PMJarlth has plans to look at the game of football and change its negativity

Going to be difficult

I vowed never to type this up again. But I can't help it.

The fundamental problem with football is that the value of possession greatly outweighs the value of territory.

So instead of the rule makers looking at gimmicks - like the advanced mark - they need to look at the fundamental structures of the game.

Bring in the half court rule (no returning over either 45) and bring in a substantial penalty for breaking the rule (45m free from hand or the ground).

There will be a period of adjustment when (particular club) teams who've spent the past 10 years protecting the D, are afraid to leave the D at all. But it'll slowly dawn on everyone that when the opposition press you, the best thing you can do is move the ball quickly into the spaces left in their half. And I before long they'll understand that if they don't score every time it doesn't matter - as the ball will be returned to them much more often under these principles.


Under these rules Id just coach my team to play Mourinho ball. Take an early lead. Then simply retreat all 15 of our players into my own half. If the opposing team are down 3/4 points they can't just sit back. They must advance into our half. And once they do they're trapped in it. Win a turnover and break into the oceans of space present in their half because all of my team and a large proportion of theirs are in my half.

This would ingrain the current extra-time tactic of mass retreat by the leading team.
Someone gets it...

That they might. What I mean is that they might well be right and I'm barking up the wrong tree.

But I'd ask this

1. What is actually different between this proposed version of "Mourinho ball" and the one that currently takes place? They're following exactly the same principles to me.

2. How many men do you actually think you would need to press into the opposition 45 to push them out? Be honest. Let's say 10. Maybe 11 against a highly skilled possession team. You won't need 15, that's for sure.  Yeah that would leave oceans of space in your own half. But unless your opponents leave men up too, then there shouldn't be that overlap described.

Addressing points in order

1. There's no difference between current tactics and my Mourinho ball scenario. That's the point I'm making. You're advocating for a rule change which by your own admission will cement the current state of the game. Unless you can propose why a team 2 or 3 points up would advance into the opposition 45 when they know that as soon as the attacking team cross the 45 the space they can use decreases by 40%.

2. You're describing why teams should press up. You haven't explained how teams are encouraged to press up under your proposed rules. It seems self evident to me that a half court rule would encourage teams to retreat to the 45 as they're then having to defend a much smaller pitch with the same amount of players.


Coaches/teams aren't intrinsically negative or defensive. Their focus is on winning and being competitive. If pushing up worked easily then coaches and the top teams would do that. But the risks far outweigh the rewards and so teams, especially at the start of games when they are trying to be overrun, and at the end when they are tired chose to defend deep and in numbers. Simply stating in print that pushing up on teams is a winning strategy doesn't make it so. If it were you'd see it every Sunday.
#3
General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
February 27, 2024, 11:08:17 PM
Masters of the air is absolute dogshit.
#4
GAA Discussion / Re: The Advanced Mark
February 27, 2024, 12:21:19 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on February 26, 2024, 10:35:42 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on February 26, 2024, 10:23:26 PMJarlth has plans to look at the game of football and change its negativity

Going to be difficult

I vowed never to type this up again. But I can't help it.

The fundamental problem with football is that the value of possession greatly outweighs the value of territory.

So instead of the rule makers looking at gimmicks - like the advanced mark - they need to look at the fundamental structures of the game.

Bring in the half court rule (no returning over either 45) and bring in a substantial penalty for breaking the rule (45m free from hand or the ground).

There will be a period of adjustment when (particular club) teams who've spent the past 10 years protecting the D, are afraid to leave the D at all. But it'll slowly dawn on everyone that when the opposition press you, the best thing you can do is move the ball quickly into the spaces left in their half. And I before long they'll understand that if they don't score every time it doesn't matter - as the ball will be returned to them much more often under these principles.


Under these rules Id just coach my team to play Mourinho ball. Take an early lead. Then simply retreat all 15 of our players into my own half. If the opposing team are down 3/4 points they can't just sit back. They must advance into our half. And once they do they're trapped in it. Win a turnover and break into the oceans of space present in their half because all of my team and a large proportion of theirs are in my half.

This would ingrain the current extra-time tactic of mass retreat by the leading team.
#5
Very sad news. Had heard from someone who knows the family that Klopp had taken time to go over to see him during the January break.
#6
General discussion / Re: TV Show recommendations
January 23, 2024, 11:23:19 AM
Quote from: Main Street on January 20, 2024, 11:56:28 PMIs there any particular reason why there's no live audience any longer on the Tommy Tiernan show?

I'd say they felt that people would be more honest in front of just Tommy than with a baying crowd of 50 strangers. Speaking in front of an audience does provoke a load of cliche ridden nonsense.
#7
Quote from: jcpen on January 21, 2024, 08:14:42 PMNext few games will tell the story. Liverpool have two tough games coming up while Man City have two easy enough fixtures. You'd expect City will be back on top after it.

Would be no suprise to see Liverpool drop 4 points from those next 2 games.
#8
Quote from: statto on January 21, 2024, 07:52:07 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 21, 2024, 07:28:45 PMBournemouth have 25 points. Not sure if they are in form or not

But a top of the league team should be winning like that every week against teams sitting in 12th place.

#Liverpoolstolose
They had won 6 out of last 8 league games losing away to Spurs and drawing with villa who have arguably been team of season.While this is a game  Liverpool should be winning if are going to be serious title contenders if was on paper a difficult game and Bournemouth have improved dramatically over the past few months.

Ignore him he's a WUM. Realistically any well organised side are going to be a big challenge for Liverpool given the slew of players missing. Liverpool are down to playing their 3rd choice LB and 3rd choice RB, a first choice centre-half, 4 of the 8 choices in midfield and their best player and top scorer. Today's result was very impressive given how the first half showed how it could have turned out for them, i.e. flat and disjointed.
#9
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2023-2024
December 29, 2023, 08:23:06 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on December 29, 2023, 08:06:30 PMThis is high end crime though not door to door burglaries.

Exactly. The figure it would take to completely deter high end robbers would be eye-watering, even for multi-millionaire footballers. I can't understand why people are reacting to this like he deserved it. Obscene as his wages may be he earned it honestly and is free to spend it as as he wishes.

I can only assume the reaction against him is your typical Irish begrudgery, bitterness and spite directed at a lad who has been successful rather than directing it towards the pricks who robbed his house. Next time someone they know gets robbed I hope they're as quick to tell them "ah you had it coming".
#10
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2023-2024
December 29, 2023, 08:14:12 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2023, 07:58:48 PM
Quote from: trileacman on December 29, 2023, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2023, 03:53:53 PM
Quote from: trileacman on December 29, 2023, 01:58:31 PMHis take home pay would be 6million a year if he's on 250k. How much would full time security cost? 500k a year? Like if he gets security guards at the house it needs to be 365,24/7 cover or what's the point. I imagine that cover doesn't come cheap.

How much is a decent security alarm with the 24 hour cover?

Could even hire a security guard at £20000 a year cost?

£20k a year would get you less than 40 hours a week. Who covers the other 128+ hours?


That's ok, how many hours will be needed? He starts at 11pm finishes at 7am

Thieves will only break into houses which have zero protection, if there is visual protection they'll move on to the next one.

As I said on the other thread social media is a curse, brandishing top end stuff on social media sites just puts a big fecking target on your back.

So for 20k he'll get some chump to work 365 nights in the year?

You're contradicting yourself completely here. "thieves will only break into houses with zero protection, if there is visual protection they'll move on to the next one" yet in your previous sentence you suggested the guard would clock off at 7am.
#11
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2023-2024
December 29, 2023, 08:06:00 PM
Quote from: trailer on December 29, 2023, 06:30:19 PM
Quote from: trileacman on December 29, 2023, 01:58:31 PMHis take home pay would be 6million a year if he's on 250k. How much would full time security cost? 500k a year? Like if he gets security guards at the house it needs to be 365,24/7 cover or what's the point. I imagine that cover doesn't come cheap.

500k a year?? Must get into the security industry.

Couple of hired goons. 100k a year tops. Less than a weeks wage.

Hired goons? What are you on about! You think Grealish is gonna ring up some UVF crowd or similar wingnuts and tell them to send round a few heavies?

Count it up properly and you'll come to a proper figure. It would take 3 guys doing 8 hour shifts to cover 1 day. 2 of whom would have to be on overtime given they'll be working outside normal hours. Weekend guys would cost double time. Factor in annual leave/sick notice and you're talking 6-7 people minimum to provide 24/7 cover year round. If your willing to work full-time for 1/6th of 100K I'll send Jack on your number.
#12
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2023-2024
December 29, 2023, 07:50:38 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on December 29, 2023, 03:53:53 PM
Quote from: trileacman on December 29, 2023, 01:58:31 PMHis take home pay would be 6million a year if he's on 250k. How much would full time security cost? 500k a year? Like if he gets security guards at the house it needs to be 365,24/7 cover or what's the point. I imagine that cover doesn't come cheap.

How much is a decent security alarm with the 24 hour cover?

Could even hire a security guard at £20000 a year cost?

£20k a year would get you less than 40 hours a week. Who covers the other 128+ hours?
#13
General discussion / Re: Premier League 2023-2024
December 29, 2023, 01:58:31 PM
His take home pay would be 6million a year if he's on 250k. How much would full time security cost? 500k a year? Like if he gets security guards at the house it needs to be 365,24/7 cover or what's the point. I imagine that cover doesn't come cheap.
#14
1-1 written all over this
#15
Quote from: Captain Obvious on December 16, 2023, 05:09:39 PMCan only imagine the big grin on Klopp face after seeing Manchester City dropping two points at home to Crystal palace today. Liverpool expected to get a comfortable win tomorrow which will move them six points ahead of Manchester City and still have to play them in Anfield. Very much Liverpool's league title to lose.

Think they have something like a 31% win percentage for tomorrow.