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Cluborcountywhynotboth

Right decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

theticklemister


JoG2

Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?

Cluborcountywhynotboth

Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

toby47

I haven't a problem with the holiday, maybe i'm missing something?


JoG2

Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

So, what this squad has done for the county the last 2 years, 2 Ulster's, 2 x semi final appearances. The sacrifices made, never mind the revenue brought in, you'd begrudge them a team holiday? Complete and utter madness is right

toby47

Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

So, what this squad has done for the county the last 2 years, 2 Ulster's, 2 x semi final appearances. The sacrifices made, never mind the revenue brought in, you'd begrudge them a team holiday? Complete and utter madness is right

I'd agree with that, probably the equivalent of about £1,500 per man. Plus sponsors will be covering the majority of the costs i'd imagine?


Keyser soze

Quote from: toby47 on March 06, 2024, 10:12:50 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

So, what this squad has done for the county the last 2 years, 2 Ulster's, 2 x semi final appearances. The sacrifices made, never mind the revenue brought in, you'd begrudge them a team holiday? Complete and utter madness is right

I'd agree with that, probably the equivalent of about £1,500 per man. Plus sponsors will be covering the majority of the costs i'd imagine?



I thought the 80k was for a warm-weather training camp?

RedHand88

Who cares. Its a team bonding session. I'd say 80k is right enough if they are bringing the wags for 35(?) players, plus coaching staff.
Counties that win all Irelands do this all the time.

Cluborcountywhynotboth

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Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

So, what this squad has done for the county the last 2 years, 2 Ulster's, 2 x semi final appearances. The sacrifices made, never mind the revenue brought in, you'd begrudge them a team holiday? Complete and utter madness is right

Last time I check no1 had a gun to their head to make those 'sacrifices'. Large majority are young men with no families who are either at uni or in jobs that are very very amenable to allowing them to make 'sacrifices'. Back in the day, when players had proper jobs and families, it was seen as a privilege to represent your county, not apparently it's a sacrifice, Jesus wept and we wonder why this generation of young people are how they are.
How and ever, my issue isn't with the holiday, more power to them, but spending 80k on sending a senior team on a jolly is ridiculous for a so called amateur organisation. Surely that money if it's coming from sponsors or the CB, would be better spent in games development?
Or how about instead of A county board spending 80k on a holiday for the men's team they use it to pay running costs and allow ladies, camogie, and clubs to use Owenbeg for free instead of charging them an arm and a leg to use the facilities. If the players are covering the costs themselves then work away, but if it's coming out of the coffers of sponsors then there is a whole lot better way to spend it. Yes the senior men are the marquee and face of the game to an extent, but they are not and should not be the be all and end all.

ONEDerry

It's only being made a big deal of because of Cahair has the inside line. Counties who haven't had the recent success Derry have had  are doing this and we hear nothing about it. As has been said the income from the last couple of years and the run the county with the big attendances at games more than covers it. He's of no help to Derry that man and just enjoys stirring it.

JoG2

Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

So, what this squad has done for the county the last 2 years, 2 Ulster's, 2 x semi final appearances. The sacrifices made, never mind the revenue brought in, you'd begrudge them a team holiday? Complete and utter madness is right

Last time I check no1 had a gun to their head to make those 'sacrifices'. Large majority are young men with no families who are either at uni or in jobs that are very very amenable to allowing them to make 'sacrifices'. How and ever, my issue isn't with the holiday, more power to them, but spending 80k on sending a senior team on a jolly is ridiculous for a so called amateur organisation. Surely that money if it's coming from sponsors or the CB, would be better spent in games development?
Or how about instead of A county board spending 80k on a holiday for the men's team they use it to pay running costs and allow ladies, camogie, and clubs to use Owenbeg for free instead of charging them an arm and a leg to use the facilities. If the players are covering the costs themselves then work away, but if it's coming out of the coffers of sponsors then there is a whole lot better way to spend it. Yes the senior men are the marquee and face of the game to an extent, but they are not and should not be the be all and end all.

A jolly / gun to their head.. Have a word with yourself.

Quote from: ONEDerry on March 06, 2024, 11:04:22 AMIt's only being made a big deal of because of Cahair has the inside line. Counties who haven't had the recent success Derry have had  are doing this and we hear nothing about it. As has been said the income from the last couple of years and the run the county with the big attendances at games more than covers it. He's of no help to Derry that man and just enjoys stirring it.

It's not a big deal though, far from it

JohnDenver

Quote from: RedHand88 on March 06, 2024, 10:55:03 AMWho cares. Its a team bonding session. I'd say 80k is right enough if they are bringing the wags for 35(?) players, plus coaching staff.
Counties that win all Irelands do this all the time.

I can't see the wags going. I would like to think it is a warm weather training camp for all the players for 3 or 4 days or whatever it is.

Joe Kernan and La Manga - just need the cross field diagonal ball going into Shane McGuigan now!

Won't be a word about it if croke park and all ireland final day is reached

Cluborcountywhynotboth

Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 11:06:26 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 10:58:44 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 10:09:04 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:30:40 AM
Quote from: JoG2 on March 06, 2024, 09:18:07 AM
Quote from: Cluborcountywhynotboth on March 06, 2024, 09:14:22 AMRight decision as clubs need stop appealing every single restructure as they have been the last number of years, however it's a very dangerous situation if the executive can effectively carry or defeat any vote they want. This executive seems to have become a dictatorship and serious changes need made.
Also. 80k on a holiday? That's complete and utter madness.

County senior holiday?
According to Cahair yes

So, what this squad has done for the county the last 2 years, 2 Ulster's, 2 x semi final appearances. The sacrifices made, never mind the revenue brought in, you'd begrudge them a team holiday? Complete and utter madness is right

Last time I check no1 had a gun to their head to make those 'sacrifices'. Large majority are young men with no families who are either at uni or in jobs that are very very amenable to allowing them to make 'sacrifices'. How and ever, my issue isn't with the holiday, more power to them, but spending 80k on sending a senior team on a jolly is ridiculous for a so called amateur organisation. Surely that money if it's coming from sponsors or the CB, would be better spent in games development?
Or how about instead of A county board spending 80k on a holiday for the men's team they use it to pay running costs and allow ladies, camogie, and clubs to use Owenbeg for free instead of charging them an arm and a leg to use the facilities. If the players are covering the costs themselves then work away, but if it's coming out of the coffers of sponsors then there is a whole lot better way to spend it. Yes the senior men are the marquee and face of the game to an extent, but they are not and should not be the be all and end all.

A jolly / gun to their head.. Have a word with yourself.

Quote from: ONEDerry on March 06, 2024, 11:04:22 AMIt's only being made a big deal of because of Cahair has the inside line. Counties who haven't had the recent success Derry have had  are doing this and we hear nothing about it. As has been said the income from the last couple of years and the run the county with the big attendances at games more than covers it. He's of no help to Derry that man and just enjoys stirring it.

It's not a big deal though, far from it
Have a word with myself??? Very constructive.

I'd love to know what sacrifices these poor martyrs are making in order to grace us with their presence in a Derry jersey. I've nothing against the players and their commitment level, and it's great to see them doing well. But to paint them as men making huge sacrifices is just plain wrong. They are young men living a dream of thousands of young men and woman around the country and have everything laid on for them from 5 star hotels at away games, to paid days off work any time they need it, they literally just have to turn up and do what they are asked. 

Fair play to them if they are getting a free holiday, but as a member of the GAA in Derry I feel that that money could and should be spent elsewhere. The senior lads are already well enough looked after in my opinion.

RedHand88

#6944
"5 star hotels for away games?" Lol!!!!