Cycling

Started by Jimmy, February 18, 2010, 10:20:27 PM

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JimStynes

#3060
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 02, 2024, 04:14:18 PM
Quote from: grounded on January 01, 2024, 02:51:30 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 01, 2024, 12:54:58 AM16000km

Rim brake bikes work, simple as
There are practically no descents in Ireland where disc brakes are needed



Superb, nearly 10,000 miles in old money. I'd hazard a guess thats more than most drive per year. Do you cycle to work as well or all training/racing?

Agree on the rim brakes, some brilliant frames/bikes up for not too much money.
Commute by bike once a fortnight when it suits.
Mainly training/racing.
The hours needed to train to compete in racing can be ridiculous. Don't think fellas involved in gaa realise the time put in by many club cyclists in Ireland.

Huge commitment from lads who are training to compete. Only thing I would say is that at least a lot of the training is on your own terms and time. The annoying thing with  GAA training was it was on someone else schedule. I'd rather get my training done in the morning than waiting around to go train at 7.30 and not home until 9.30.

grounded

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 10:59:50 PM
Quote from: grounded on January 03, 2024, 08:31:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 12:55:24 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 02, 2024, 08:08:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 02, 2024, 04:46:00 PMRunning is the same.
You are talking at least 11-12 hrs  per week on the bike to prepare for cycle racing, and then some weeks with 15+ hrs.
Try to fit in 1-2 gym sessions too

This it for me, its too time consuming, and I don't trust drivers on the road,

So for sprints the 750m swim is generally 16 minutes at worst in normal Olympic it's around 30 minutes
Best 5k in sprint was 23 minutes.

My quickest sprint...

So 23 plus 16 meant it took me 48 minutes to do the cycle, it should never take that long to cycle 20km.

Tommy not sure if it the serious work out or just getting the road miles over a turbo that improve that. The road brings in other factors

So over that 20km your averaging 15.6mph/25kph. I guess it all depends on the course.
  What was the course you done that on?
  A hilly/lumpy course can fairly take your average down especially in a triathlon.
   
   


Milltown Row2

Quote from: grounded on January 04, 2024, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 10:59:50 PM
Quote from: grounded on January 03, 2024, 08:31:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 12:55:24 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 02, 2024, 08:08:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 02, 2024, 04:46:00 PMRunning is the same.
You are talking at least 11-12 hrs  per week on the bike to prepare for cycle racing, and then some weeks with 15+ hrs.
Try to fit in 1-2 gym sessions too

This it for me, its too time consuming, and I don't trust drivers on the road,

So for sprints the 750m swim is generally 16 minutes at worst in normal Olympic it's around 30 minutes
Best 5k in sprint was 23 minutes.

My quickest sprint...

So 23 plus 16 meant it took me 48 minutes to do the cycle, it should never take that long to cycle 20km.

Tommy not sure if it the serious work out or just getting the road miles over a turbo that improve that. The road brings in other factors

So over that 20km your averaging 15.6mph/25kph. I guess it all depends on the course.
  What was the course you done that on?
  A hilly/lumpy course can fairly take your average down especially in a triathlon.
   
   



Wouldn't say overly hilly, more of a very long hill, gradient not overly bad, just remember a guy that I left behind in the water just passing me like I was cycling with the brakes on!

But I know it's about getting the miles in, I just don't like cycling on the roads, at all!
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

markl121

The roads are getting worse and maybe as I get older I am more weary Did about 2000k on Zwift last year and will probably do more this year. I love being on the road but being passed dangerously and seeing near car accidents every single ride tends to drag me down.

manfromdelmonte

I have 4/5 routes I regularly use depending on the time of day. Roads with very wide verges or secondary or local roads with little traffic.
Old national roads replaced by a motorway are also great.
Always have flashing lights front and rear.
Cycling in the dark is almost safer

grounded

#3065
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 04, 2024, 06:45:39 PM
Quote from: grounded on January 04, 2024, 06:22:09 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 10:59:50 PM
Quote from: grounded on January 03, 2024, 08:31:05 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 03, 2024, 12:55:24 PM
Quote from: manfromdelmonte on January 02, 2024, 08:08:44 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on January 02, 2024, 04:46:00 PMRunning is the same.
You are talking at least 11-12 hrs  per week on the bike to prepare for cycle racing, and then some weeks with 15+ hrs.
Try to fit in 1-2 gym sessions too

This it for me, its too time consuming, and I don't trust drivers on the road,

So for sprints the 750m swim is generally 16 minutes at worst in normal Olympic it's around 30 minutes
Best 5k in sprint was 23 minutes.

My quickest sprint...

So 23 plus 16 meant it took me 48 minutes to do the cycle, it should never take that long to cycle 20km.

Tommy not sure if it the serious work out or just getting the road miles over a turbo that improve that. The road brings in other factors

So over that 20km your averaging 15.6mph/25kph. I guess it all depends on the course.
  What was the course you done that on?
  A hilly/lumpy course can fairly take your average down especially in a triathlon.
   
   



Wouldn't say overly hilly, more of a very long hill, gradient not overly bad, just remember a guy that I left behind in the water just passing me like I was cycling with the brakes on!

But I know it's about getting the miles in, I just don't like cycling on the roads, at all!


Not a triathlon expert, but
You're training for a roughly 35 minute all out effort for the cycle.
   Is there any need to spend a huge amount of time going on long low intensity spins?
   Surely your time would be better spent developing the ability to ride at the intensity and duration you want to excel at i.e. the all out 20k cycle.
  So 2x20 intervals with 30 min tt efforts as part of your training schedule.
  Specificity with 2-3 of these sessions per week, obviously tapering to the event itself.
  Definitely a turbo trainer would work brilliantly here and avoid you having to venture out on the road too much. TrainerRoad offer specific plans but many other sources for training plans.
   

Milltown Row2

Ideally the best plans for triathlon training is to mix it with swims in the morning, generally 50 to 100 lengths

Go to work

Then 10k runs and gym strengthening, squats and so on, usually I'd have split the 10k runs into 5k, weights and then another 5k.

Would normally have done spin 4/5 times a week for indoor cycling

Weekend was long runs and 45 minute cycling on the road.

I like the idea of the turbo, as long as I don't get too bored in the garage

The separate disciplines have effects after completing them, it's nearly impossible (unless competing all the time) to transition smoothly, always found coming off the bike into either a 5k sprint or 10k Olympic that it took me a while to get used to the discipline of running (which I was stronger at) at the normal pace you'd run 10 at.

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

grounded

I'm a hopeless runner and even worse swimmer i dont know how you do it!
    Again, with no triathlon knowledge but just going from your times in each of the disciplines, surely you have the most to gain timewise overall by focusing on the cycling component.
    I dont think you need 4/5 times indoor cycling. 2/3 times would suffice if the training was tailored specifically for the 20km. Those 20/20 intervals and 30-40 min tt efforts.
    No lies, the turbo can be boring as f. Trainer Road probably has the best plans(some of the others might correct me here) but your looking at a series of graphs which can be quite monotonous. Zwift probably most fun! and teamed up with a smart trainer somewhat enjoyable, though nothing beats being on the road.
    Again just out of interest would you be going 100% in the cycling, or are you trying to save your legs for the running(which is a stronger discipline?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: grounded on January 05, 2024, 10:33:25 PMI'm a hopeless runner and even worse swimmer i dont know how you do it!
    Again, with no triathlon knowledge but just going from your times in each of the disciplines, surely you have the most to gain timewise overall by focusing on the cycling component.
    I dont think you need 4/5 times indoor cycling. 2/3 times would suffice if the training was tailored specifically for the 20km. Those 20/20 intervals and 30-40 min tt efforts.
    No lies, the turbo can be boring as f. Trainer Road probably has the best plans(some of the others might correct me here) but your looking at a series of graphs which can be quite monotonous. Zwift probably most fun! and teamed up with a smart trainer somewhat enjoyable, though nothing beats being on the road.
    Again just out of interest would you be going 100% in the cycling, or are you trying to save your legs for the running(which is a stronger discipline?

I'm a balls out type of trainer, when I've competed I'm trying to win eith every last bitta effort, so generally I leave nothing behind, which is probably a downfall, might look into the turbo
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

JoG2

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on January 05, 2024, 10:41:26 PM
Quote from: grounded on January 05, 2024, 10:33:25 PMI'm a hopeless runner and even worse swimmer i dont know how you do it!
    Again, with no triathlon knowledge but just going from your times in each of the disciplines, surely you have the most to gain timewise overall by focusing on the cycling component.
    I dont think you need 4/5 times indoor cycling. 2/3 times would suffice if the training was tailored specifically for the 20km. Those 20/20 intervals and 30-40 min tt efforts.
    No lies, the turbo can be boring as f. Trainer Road probably has the best plans(some of the others might correct me here) but your looking at a series of graphs which can be quite monotonous. Zwift probably most fun! and teamed up with a smart trainer somewhat enjoyable, though nothing beats being on the road.
    Again just out of interest would you be going 100% in the cycling, or are you trying to save your legs for the running(which is a stronger discipline?

I'm a balls out type of trainer, when I've competed I'm trying to win eith every last bitta effort, so generally I leave nothing behind, which is probably a downfall, might look into the turbo

You wouldn't be the first

https://youtu.be/jns9NHhzGeM?si=SbN7Dw4QfoBI7H1G

Milltown Row2

 ;D seen that before lol
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Tony Baloney

Can youse try to not be on the road when I'm going places. Today had them out in droves. Thanks in advance.

markl121

Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 06, 2024, 05:39:14 PMCan youse try to not be on the road when I'm going places. Today had them out in droves. Thanks in advance.
As long as you pass us like you would any other car...

JimStynes

I miss the cycling but took fear a few years ago. Couple near misses had me nervous and packed it in.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: markl121 on January 06, 2024, 06:46:16 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on January 06, 2024, 05:39:14 PMCan youse try to not be on the road when I'm going places. Today had them out in droves. Thanks in advance.
As long as you pass us like you would any other car...
A metre is plenty of room.