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General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: June 03, 2023, 11:19:37 PM »
What did Arsenal win this year?

General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: June 03, 2023, 11:09:08 PM »
1st in the Rumbelows Cup
2nd in the FA Cup
3rd in the League

It's a sign of how far they've fallen that this is seen as success

If they are so crap, how bad are the rest? Woeful season considering how city have stormed to the doors of a treble

Utd the only team to actually win something in this league that’s looking like the German and French leagues

General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: June 03, 2023, 10:00:37 PM »
The broader point is his greed and money seems to be his god, his greed caused the ruptures that led to the Glazers

Aye dead on, cause you know him  ;… nightmare

Where did I saw I knew him ? It’s well known and all in the public domain you eejit. Go and read again about rock of Gibraltar & JP McManus & Magnier

And if you have time read about his son representing basically the whole United squad until United banned him

Stop with your rubbish, anyone offering you 2 million a year for 20 days work you’ll say no? Daft

General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: June 03, 2023, 09:50:18 PM »
The broader point is his greed and money seems to be his god, his greed caused the ruptures that led to the Glazers

Aye dead on, cause you know him  ;… nightmare

General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: June 03, 2023, 09:40:38 PM »
My oul boy said Fergie gets 200k or so a week from Utd…that can’t be true is it? What was with the bucket hats?
Apparently as a United ambassador he's on £2 million a year for 20 days work.

You could suffer that?

General discussion / Re: Man Utd Thread:
« on: June 03, 2023, 08:14:26 PM »
Would it not be somewhere in hate crime category or something?

Words would near fail you for someone with the depths to wear that. Who would print the t shirt too.

You’d rip that off them and beat the shit out of him too. Proper tool

How bad are Laois? Or are London decent?

Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
« on: June 03, 2023, 02:40:27 PM »
Monaghan tried their best to lose that, Lancashire had their chances at the death to still it. Memorable day for all involved at HQ

Just make a new sport while you're at it

Whatever new rules you put in place a manager/coach will look at it and work it towards their needs.

Possession football is all that matters, the more you have of the ball the more you control, millions watch, love and support soccer, its a possession game and the team with the most possession usually wins.

Its changed over the years, some say for the better, but its very boring at times
So what is your position? As a ref you don't want new rules as they'd be too difficult to police, but you agree that large parts of many games are difficult to watch.
Are you of the opinion we should just accept it and let the game die a slow death as spectators drift away and players shortly thereafter?
Or do you think the rules should be changed (having due regard to volunteers like yourself in making them simple to police) to improve the game as a spectacle and as a sport that players can enjoy?
I've said it many times on here, restricting teams from going back over their halfway line (45/65?) and requiring 2 players to remain in the opposition half at all times should be relatively easy to monitor. Wobbler's punishment of a 45 for transgressions is harsh, but it'd certainly focus minds!
I can understand why some on here, blinded by recent club or county success are of the 'leave the rules alone', but I can't understand why people who agree that large parts of games are tedious would not see the merit in trialling changes.

First and foremost I'm a GAA man at many levels, supporter, past player at hurling and football at all levels for many years, a manager in both codes and now for my sins been refereeing for many years at both codes at the highest club level. I believe I've a decent view on things. I've seen plenty of rule changes over the years and I've yet to see one that has actually progressed it (football)

The basics are the same and cannot be changed, if you try and morph it into a different sport then it will be a different sport. My point is defensive football could have been employed many years ago but the managers at the time didn't have the foresight to employ those tactics and when others took a different take on it and it brought reward then they are all at it, back in the 50's when Antrim were good at football they utilised the hand-pass, it got that bad at the time that they thought about changing the rules, this stuff isn't new.

Changing it won't make it better, managing the stuff thats been talked about from a refereeing point of view is just stupid, and if you think its easy then go knock yourself out and be part of the trails

Sideline ball out the hand? Handpassing a goal into the net? Apart from that, what have the Romans ever done for us?

Probably handpassing the ball to net, often wondered why not have the 45’s out of the hand also?

The Mark, either defensive or attacking pointless. Sin bin hasn’t stopped the cynical foul completely gum shields no one is really wearing them, back pass to keeper? Not changed anything I can think of

Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
« on: June 02, 2023, 10:37:25 PM »
And that’s fine… these PLAYERS deserve along with management to be allowed to play on the hallowed turf of Croke, regardless of how many turn up

GAA Discussion / Re: Go Games - Good or bad - discuss...
« on: June 02, 2023, 04:40:04 PM »
Twitter has been an interesting read the past few days.

There’s a lot of adults in Ireland that truly detest how their GAA clubs/mentors treated them as youngsters.

There’s just something doesn’t sit right about this blame game with me.

I was the most mediocre footballer / athlete who walked this earth. I was dropped more times than I can remember. Turned up for a bucket load of matches when I knew I wouldn’t play. Threw the toys out of the pram once or twice, when I should have played. But I loved playing football, and blamed nobody but myself for not making teams… and then stuck at it til I was 43.

I’m not sure about this “I was never given a chance” mentality that pervades these conversations. Try harder folks.

There’s a level that you are actually at and then there’s a level that you think you are at… anyone that had a decent work ethic or ability got on, anyone who didn’t usually fitted into the team that suited their abilities or work ethic.

People looking back complaining about how they were treated in relation to their game time needs to have a word with himself.

You're not factoring in Nepotism which is still a huge problem. There are lads sitting on benches that are every bit as good as those starting but they are losing out because the manager is sorting relatives/mates out first.

Important to have a strong games committee that people can go to with those concerns, but that goes both ways too though, "my Johnny is a better player than the managers son", sometimes its right and other times the parent has as much a tinted pair of eyes on as the manager!

But I've listen to that stuff over the years, if you are good enough you'll get game time, only a fool would put on weaker players and is usually caught out  very quickly from competition age up its a results business and coaching staff are judged fairly quick.

If they are doing this up to under 12 then they need a good slap too, I'm at a club that I had no older relations at I think I can only remember one game where I felt nepotism was employed, though if I'm being honest we were fairly equal so it came down to choice, though the only thing that maddens me was I was picked on the Thursday and told on the Sunday I wouldn't be starting lol! 34 years ago, was like yesterday  ;D

This is a good one from Dublin club football.

Division 2 league game in which Ciaran Archer was sent off (was one of Dublin’s better players at his age group at minor and U20, not on the senior panel this year).

He was sent off for the incident below (Indo also has this video up on their report I believe)

In his report, the ref described it as an assault and said he suffered a rib injury.

Archer duly got the maximum suspension of 96 weeks for an assault on a referee.

Thankfully the video evidence surfaced, Archer appealed, and was cleared (although had to miss 2 games during the appeals process). It was judged to have been more likely to be accidental.

He does catch him and for the life of me I don't know why he went that direction, that wasn't the easiest path for the player to go.. That being said, I had a collision (accidental) with a player and cracked a rib or worse, I never let on but was in pain/discomfort for around 6 weeks. The video doesn't actually show much tbf, It just doesn't show him being assaulted lol

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: June 02, 2023, 01:22:51 PM »
Gutted, just heard Ryan Convery got bad news, ACL joint gone. Massive  loss to PG1.

Agree, Sunday will tell a tale of where we are, two teams well matched, winner straight through to QF's, loser a game 7 days later in QF prelims.

Jeez that is sad news from.PG1...Ryan is a huge prospect and hope is recovery is quick......

Its a pity he didnt get that injury at county training....  ::)

Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
« on: June 02, 2023, 11:20:06 AM »
Antrim’s team and set up has changed since the league meeting, the added bite of ‘championship’ and neutral ground should even things up but bookies don’t get much wrong

General discussion / Re: Things that make you go What the F**k?
« on: June 02, 2023, 10:45:19 AM »
The amount of coverage the Philip Schofield story has had, it’s totally inconsequential in the grand scheme of things.

It sells, dafties are interested and that's all that matters, its like people interested in the Royals having a shit or coming out of a cafe or whatever

They're looking for the next Jimmy Saville scoop, Schofields actions were a bit "groomy" with that young lad all the same.

Older man fancies younger person... Its been happening for years.. If you were lets say 53 ;) and a fit young attractive person in their 20's felt the same should you entertain that (providing you were not married) or just stay with ones your age?

Not talking about Scofield here btw, he had some interactions possibly when he was young but I think its a exaggeration to an extent, but basically he lied to himself, wife his kids and his employers. In the media you have to be squeaky clean

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