6 County Assembly Elections - 5th May 2022

Started by Snapchap, February 23, 2022, 10:18:43 AM

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Wildweasel74

Yeah but they haven't a big pick, done well with what they have.

Feckitt

Nationalist vote is greater than Unionist vote for the first time ever.   What is the point in NI anymore?
Irish government need to grow some balls and prepare for Unity because this is a one way ticket.  Unionists will never outpoll Nationalism ever again.

marty34

Quote from: Feckitt on May 20, 2023, 09:25:27 PM
Nationalist vote is greater than Unionist vote for the first time ever.   What is the point in NI anymore?
Irish government need to grow some balls and prepare for Unity because this is a one way ticket.  Unionists will never outpoll Nationalism ever again.

Yeah, things are changing pretty quickly.

Only problem is unionism doesn't seem to realise it or doesn't want to realise it.

Look at Danny Kennedy today - what a joke.  He just doesn't get it.

Shinners picked up seats all over the place this time.  In East Belfast, Lisburn and Coleraine etc.  The demographics are changing quickly.  Could have had picked up a few more seats also.  Stood only 1 candidate in Limavady and in other places, they got the SDLP over the line.

It clears to see that the Protocol didn't have an impact in this election.

SF played it well.  Didn't rock the boat while saying and doing the right things at the right time.  I think they took the issues they were having in Derry City by the horns, went in and sorted it and look at the result today.  Short term pain for longer term gain.

SDLP in big trouble.  Very stale and very lucky they didn't lose more seats.  Hard to know what they stand for this past 10 years.  A lot of mixing and maxing with Labour, FF and FG.  Eastwood has his work cut out and I heard him on saying voters were punishing the DUP.  Needs to reflect on his leadership. Bit arrogant for my liking but some good councillors lost their seats.

Aontú keep coming back for more punishment.  Getting nowhere near seats so hard to know where they go to.  Be interesting to see how they go in the south after taking a battering in the north.

Good day for Alliance.  Gradually building but they're still not coming down green or orange.....which they will have to at some stage.

Mourne Red

Quote from: marty34 on May 20, 2023, 11:48:31 PM
Quote from: Feckitt on May 20, 2023, 09:25:27 PM
Nationalist vote is greater than Unionist vote for the first time ever.   What is the point in NI anymore?
Irish government need to grow some balls and prepare for Unity because this is a one way ticket.  Unionists will never outpoll Nationalism ever again.

Yeah, things are changing pretty quickly.

Only problem is unionism doesn't seem to realise it or doesn't want to realise it.

Look at Danny Kennedy today - what a joke.  He just doesn't get it.

Shinners picked up seats all over the place this time.  In East Belfast, Lisburn and Coleraine etc.  The demographics are changing quickly.  Could have had picked up a few more seats also.  Stood only 1 candidate in Limavady and in other places, they got the SDLP over the line.

It clears to see that the Protocol didn't have an impact in this election.

SF played it well.  Didn't rock the boat while saying and doing the right things at the right time.  I think they took the issues they were having in Derry City by the horns, went in and sorted it and look at the result today.  Short term pain for longer term gain.

SDLP in big trouble.  Very stale and very lucky they didn't lose more seats.  Hard to know what they stand for this past 10 years.  A lot of mixing and maxing with Labour, FF and FG.  Eastwood has his work cut out and I heard him on saying voters were punishing the DUP.  Needs to reflect on his leadership. Bit arrogant for my liking but some good councillors lost their seats.

Aontú keep coming back for more punishment.  Getting nowhere near seats so hard to know where they go to.  Be interesting to see how they go in the south after taking a battering in the north.

Good day for Alliance.  Gradually building but they're still not coming down green or orange.....which they will have to at some stage.

The constant SF bashing and the selection of candidates in some areas left a lot to be desired. Selected a 20 year old from Lagan Valley to run in Slieve Croob - Newry and Mourne. SF done it right picking locals in their area so people had a connection to them.

BrotherMore6592

Quote from: seafoid on May 20, 2023, 04:53:29 PM
Polarisation is no good for anyone

Weird, weird man. Would seriously question the mental health behind some of the posts

brokencrossbar1

Agus sin é. One day people will look back on today in history books and say that was a momentous day.  It's a local election but the worm has turned. We are moving down an irreversible pathway. We don't know the time frame,  we can guess,  but there is only 1 conclusion.

JPGJOHNNYG

Nationalist  vote share around 42 %. It hasn't really changed in 25 yrs something Ellis O Hanlon had great pleasure in pointing out. What the bitter cretin didn't point out was that the Unionist vote over 25yrs has dropped by nearly 20% to 38%. It's also fair to say that the Alliance party is now a lot more 'green' as reflected in their transfer patterns. I still find it odd though and plenty seem guilty of it on this site that a nationalist would pick Alliance over SDLP - wtf. Anyway the Alliance can't keep spoofing for much longer as they will need something of more substance on a border poll rather than just wishing it away.


armaghniac

This 42% nationalist vote needs to be compared with a local election in which there are independents etc and not an Assembly election with few nationalist independents.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

balladmaker

Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on May 21, 2023, 12:18:49 AM
Agus sin é. One day people will look back on today in history books and say that was a momentous day.  It's a local election but the worm has turned. We are moving down an irreversible pathway. We don't know the time frame,  we can guess,  but there is only 1 conclusion.

+200%

As Bob Dylan said - 'The times they are a changing' ... only one irreversible direction of travel for the citizens of this island ... bring it on for the greater good of all!

Orior

Quote from: JPGJOHNNYG on May 21, 2023, 12:41:15 AM
Nationalist  vote share around 42 %. It hasn't really changed in 25 yrs something Ellis O Hanlon had great pleasure in pointing out. What the bitter cretin didn't point out was that the Unionist vote over 25yrs has dropped by nearly 20% to 38%. It's also fair to say that the Alliance party is now a lot more 'green' as reflected in their transfer patterns. I still find it odd though and plenty seem guilty of it on this site that a nationalist would pick Alliance over SDLP - wtf. Anyway the Alliance can't keep spoofing for much longer as they will need something of more substance on a border poll rather than just wishing it away.

O'Hanlon is a disgrace to the ancient Irish clan name. Incredible amount of hate from her.

RDE is quiet these days. Is she sick?
Cover me in chocolate and feed me to the lesbians

Rossfan

Why does Alliance HAVE TO decide to be Orange or Green?
Surely their whole point and reason for existence is that they're neither.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Under Lights

Quote from: Rossfan on May 21, 2023, 10:18:41 AM
Why does Alliance HAVE TO decide to be Orange or Green?
Surely their whole point and reason for existence is that they're neither.

Its not green or orange but they have to have a position on a constitutional question, thats coming. With Unionism shrinking then the conditions of a border poll are surly met.

Stephen Farry has also recently said recently that AP position would be a pro EU one and whatever is the easiest way to get NI back into EU is one they would support
So thats either UI or hope labour party seek reversing Brexit

Nanderson

Quote from: Under Lights on May 21, 2023, 10:24:11 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on May 21, 2023, 10:18:41 AM
Why does Alliance HAVE TO decide to be Orange or Green?
Surely their whole point and reason for existence is that they're neither.

Its not green or orange but they have to have a position on a constitutional question, thats coming. With Unionism shrinking then the conditions of a border poll are surly met.

Stephen Farry has also recently said recently that AP position would be a pro EU one and whatever is the easiest way to get NI back into EU is one they would support
So thats either UI or hope labour party seek reversing Brexit
Its mad that to hard line unionists the alliance are a nationalist party because they align more with SF than they do with DUP ideologies. And to hard line nationalists they are a unionist party since they are pro status quo

Mourne Red

Quote from: Rossfan on May 21, 2023, 10:18:41 AM
Why does Alliance HAVE TO decide to be Orange or Green?
Surely their whole point and reason for existence is that they're neither.

They don't have to but if in the event of a border poll they would need to chose a United Ireland or Union.. They could say we will leave it up to individual members to vote / canvas for what they want but then that causes a split in the party.

There'll be a split in the party either way if/when a border poll happens because if Party chose either side then members might get the hump and defect