James Brokenshire - Snubs Amhrán na bhFiann

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BennyCake

Are North Riding and South Riding euphemisms?

johnneycool

Quote from: Avondhu star on June 01, 2017, 02:10:55 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 31, 2017, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 31, 2017, 01:57:53 PM
The problem lies with what type of UI would you be voting for?

1. An Ireland where NI would be fully integrated with constituencies electing TDs to a Dublin parliament and re-unification as in the way of East and West Germany.

2. A federal Ireland with parliaments in Belfast and Dublin with equal status and proportionate funding and existing cross border bodies dealing with all Ireland issues.

3. Another model.

One thing that everyone has learnt from the UK EU referendum is that a simple Yes/No answer is inadequate and voters should be provided with a more sophisticated proposal(s).  These models for a UI should be developed by those proposing a border poll if they are truly interested in reaching that destination and bringing as many people as possible along with them.

Maybe have 4 parliaments. One for each province, with a National parliament somewhere in the midlands?
Why not one for each county and two for Tipperary to cover the North Riding and the South Riding?

Do away with a layer of local government and replace the county councils with provincial parliaments, that'll piss off the parish pump laddo's

LeoMc

Quote from: johnneycool on June 01, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on June 01, 2017, 02:10:55 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 31, 2017, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 31, 2017, 01:57:53 PM
The problem lies with what type of UI would you be voting for?

1. An Ireland where NI would be fully integrated with constituencies electing TDs to a Dublin parliament and re-unification as in the way of East and West Germany.

2. A federal Ireland with parliaments in Belfast and Dublin with equal status and proportionate funding and existing cross border bodies dealing with all Ireland issues.

3. Another model.

One thing that everyone has learnt from the UK EU referendum is that a simple Yes/No answer is inadequate and voters should be provided with a more sophisticated proposal(s).  These models for a UI should be developed by those proposing a border poll if they are truly interested in reaching that destination and bringing as many people as possible along with them.

Maybe have 4 parliaments. One for each province, with a National parliament somewhere in the midlands?
Why not one for each county and two for Tipperary to cover the North Riding and the South Riding?

Do away with a layer of local government and replace the county councils with provincial parliaments, that'll piss off the parish pump laddo's
In the North it is 1 MP for every 62K voters or 1 MLA for every 13.5K voters.
What is the average TD / Voter ratio?

Kilkevan

Quote from: LeoMc on June 02, 2017, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 01, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on June 01, 2017, 02:10:55 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 31, 2017, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 31, 2017, 01:57:53 PM
The problem lies with what type of UI would you be voting for?

1. An Ireland where NI would be fully integrated with constituencies electing TDs to a Dublin parliament and re-unification as in the way of East and West Germany.

2. A federal Ireland with parliaments in Belfast and Dublin with equal status and proportionate funding and existing cross border bodies dealing with all Ireland issues.

3. Another model.

One thing that everyone has learnt from the UK EU referendum is that a simple Yes/No answer is inadequate and voters should be provided with a more sophisticated proposal(s).  These models for a UI should be developed by those proposing a border poll if they are truly interested in reaching that destination and bringing as many people as possible along with them.

Maybe have 4 parliaments. One for each province, with a National parliament somewhere in the midlands?
Why not one for each county and two for Tipperary to cover the North Riding and the South Riding?

Do away with a layer of local government and replace the county councils with provincial parliaments, that'll piss off the parish pump laddo's
In the North it is 1 MP for every 62K voters or 1 MLA for every 13.5K voters.
What is the average TD / Voter ratio?

1 TD to every previous family member who drank in the Dail bar.

seafoid

Quote from: LeoMc on June 02, 2017, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 01, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on June 01, 2017, 02:10:55 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 31, 2017, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 31, 2017, 01:57:53 PM
The problem lies with what type of UI would you be voting for?

1. An Ireland where NI would be fully integrated with constituencies electing TDs to a Dublin parliament and re-unification as in the way of East and West Germany.

2. A federal Ireland with parliaments in Belfast and Dublin with equal status and proportionate funding and existing cross border bodies dealing with all Ireland issues.

3. Another model.

One thing that everyone has learnt from the UK EU referendum is that a simple Yes/No answer is inadequate and voters should be provided with a more sophisticated proposal(s).  These models for a UI should be developed by those proposing a border poll if they are truly interested in reaching that destination and bringing as many people as possible along with them.

Maybe have 4 parliaments. One for each province, with a National parliament somewhere in the midlands?
Why not one for each county and two for Tipperary to cover the North Riding and the South Riding?

Do away with a layer of local government and replace the county councils with provincial parliaments, that'll piss off the parish pump laddo's
In the North it is 1 MP for every 62K voters or 1 MLA for every 13.5K voters.
What is the average TD / Voter ratio?
I think it's roughly 1 per 20K

DuffleKing

Quote from: north_antrim_hound on June 01, 2017, 02:09:51 PM
Quote from: DuffleKing on June 01, 2017, 01:38:05 PM

Leaving personalities out of it, could anyone persuade me why an Irish Nationalist should vote for SF over SDLP from an ideology and policy perspective?

Tactical voting, like it or love it the unionist did it for years
Look at the last stormont elections, voting for the shinners nearly pulled of a shock majority vote
Social, economic issues play second fiddle to the us and them mindset.

Well that's a resounding no

LeoMc

Quote from: AQMP on June 02, 2017, 12:34:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on June 02, 2017, 12:16:25 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on June 02, 2017, 12:03:03 PM
Quote from: johnneycool on June 01, 2017, 04:20:38 PM
Quote from: Avondhu star on June 01, 2017, 02:10:55 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on May 31, 2017, 02:16:51 PM
Quote from: Owen Brannigan on May 31, 2017, 01:57:53 PM
The problem lies with what type of UI would you be voting for?

1. An Ireland where NI would be fully integrated with constituencies electing TDs to a Dublin parliament and re-unification as in the way of East and West Germany.

2. A federal Ireland with parliaments in Belfast and Dublin with equal status and proportionate funding and existing cross border bodies dealing with all Ireland issues.

3. Another model.

One thing that everyone has learnt from the UK EU referendum is that a simple Yes/No answer is inadequate and voters should be provided with a more sophisticated proposal(s).  These models for a UI should be developed by those proposing a border poll if they are truly interested in reaching that destination and bringing as many people as possible along with them.

Maybe have 4 parliaments. One for each province, with a National parliament somewhere in the midlands?
Why not one for each county and two for Tipperary to cover the North Riding and the South Riding?

Do away with a layer of local government and replace the county councils with provincial parliaments, that'll piss off the parish pump laddo's
In the North it is 1 MP for every 62K voters or 1 MLA for every 13.5K voters.
What is the average TD / Voter ratio?
I think it's roughly 1 per 20K

At the 2016 election there were 3,305,110 people eligible to vote for 158 TDs, so that's 1 TD for every 20,918 registered voters.
Right so, we can dump our MP's and go with 3 or 4 MLA's per constituency. 61 NI TD's with a split of 23 DUP, 19 SF, 6 UUP, 6 SDLP, 6 Alliance & 1 x TUV.
Would DUP be enough to give FG an overall majority?
Would Jim Allister sit beside Mick Wallace?

armaghniac

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Quote from: AQMP on June 02, 2017, 12:34:54 PM
At the 2016 election there were 3,305,110 people eligible to vote for 158 TDs, so that's 1 TD for every 20,918 registered voters.

This number has gone up since they reduced the number of TDs. Bunreacht na hÉireann requires one TD representing twenty thousand and no less than one TD representing thirty thousand of the population. This can lead to small quotes in some constituencies where you have a lot of foreigners, a lot of people who could be arsed registering and a lot of people who could be arsed turning out on the day.

No doubt a UI would have a new constitution which might have slightly bigger constituencies.

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Would Jim Allister sit beside Mick Wallace?

Unlikely, that he would dress like him.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B