Leinster Championship 2020

[5times5times]

Do any Dubs here object to moving the game out of their home ground? Surely Newry or Armagh is the fairest option?

[shantygael]

No,take it to  malin  if they want

[seafoid]

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1121/1179682-whelan-rest-of-leinster-is-psychologically-smashed/

"It's worrying for the game because we're looking for entertainment. If you had 50,000 here tonight, half of them would probably be gone home at half-time.

[Baile Brigín 2]

Do any Dubs here object to moving the game out of their home ground? Surely Newry or Armagh is the fairest option?

None whatsoever. I personally love going on the road when given a chance

[Baile Brigín 2]

Where is HQ throwing money at Meath Co Board to stop them all turning to soccer and rugby?

Have Meath had any plans or strategy papers rejected or not supported? Has any county?

You remind me of the soccer heads whinging about the Grab Alls while doing hee haw themselves.

Fermanagh had a plan rejected I believe. Oh that's right...the script writers should have "tried harder".

I have heard this but nobody has ever linked to anything about it.

But the lack of a second plan taking the rejection on board would prove my point.

[caprea]

Splits and amalgamations , not a hope would supporters of county football take to that , just get the wealth spread evenly,  cap spending .

Would make very little difference. The reason Dublin are all powerful is mainly down to population. Spending money in schools or clubs to hire GPOs to teach kids the basics of the game wouldn't have the massive affect that we are seeing.

The bigger population didn't make them dominant pre-2011. Cork are the next biggest population and they don't dominate at either code.

Well it made them the second most successful county when GAA wasn't sexy in Dublin. Now GAA is the biggest show in town when it comes to pulling crowds so comparing things now to comparing things to decades ago is very flawed.

[five points]

The bigger population didn't make them dominant pre-2011. Cork are the next biggest population and they don't dominate at either code.

A bit like saying that houses were cheap in Dublin years ago. All changed, changed utterly.

[Rossfan]

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ex-westmeath-player-calls-on-county-boards-to-boycott-leinster-championship-unless-funding-disparities-tackled-39779021.html

[seafoid]

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ex-westmeath-player-calls-on-county-boards-to-boycott-leinster-championship-unless-funding-disparities-tackled-39779021.html

"Policies in motion tend to stay in motion ; to change the trajectory of a deeply embedded set of initiatives requires the application of political forces of equal motion "
Steve Walt
https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2019/0622/1056894-gaa-see-dublin-as-blueprint-for-future-not-the-problem/

[wellpastit]

A lot of arguments about funding of Dublin..
1, Financial doping etc..
2, its not the money its the hard work of the "volunteers" is the counter to that.. blah blah..
Take away the funding for 10 years ( its been in place approx 15). If after 10 years the Dubs are still unbeaten in Leinster and win say 7/10 all irelands then argument #2 proved correct if not it just might be the $$$$$'s

[sid waddell]

Cork had a population of 542k at the last census

Kilkenny had 99k

That's not far off the same population ratio as Dublin to Meath

Yet Cork haven't won a hurling All-Ireland for 15 years while Kilkenny have won 8 in that time

What's going on?

[caprea]

Cork had a population of 542k at the last census

Kilkenny had 99k

That's not far off the same population ratio as Dublin to Meath

Yet Cork haven't won a hurling All-Ireland for 15 years while Kilkenny have won 8 in that time

What's going on?

Kilkenny have won 6 more hurling titles than cork over the history of the GAA. Kerry have won, is it around 12 more, than Dublin in football.

Population isn't the be all, end all. There are other factors that make Kilkenny and kerry special but at the end of the day population is the biggest factor in the destination of GAA trophies.

[Dinny Breen]

This bizarre narrative being put forward that Dublin GAA volunteer better and volunteer harder is quite frankly an insult to every voluntary organisation in the country. It's disingenuous and quite frankly insulting.

That Dublin players work harder that their counterparts is also disingenuous and quite frankly insulting.

Dublin players as a collective travel less, have more more more spent on physical preparation, mental preparation, technical preparation, tactical preparation and lifestyle enhancements that any other county in the history of the GAA. To ignore the co-relationship between money spent and success is to ignore the history of professional sport over the last 150 years.

The sooner more players like John Connellan call out this charade for what it is the better.

Romantic GAA is long dead. It died the day the Government, The GAA and Dublin go into bed together and have been swapping spit ever since.

[caprea]

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ex-westmeath-player-calls-on-county-boards-to-boycott-leinster-championship-unless-funding-disparities-tackled-39779021.html

A very very minor card in the GAA house of cards just got flicked. Revolutions don't always start with a huge battle. They often start with a minor skirmish.

[seafoid]

Cork had a population of 542k at the last census

Kilkenny had 99k

That's not far off the same population ratio as Dublin to Meath

Yet Cork haven't won a hurling All-Ireland for 15 years while Kilkenny have won 8 in that time

What's going on?

Sport isn't usually linear. Cork could return and win 3 in a row. Mean reversion is important