AI Hurling Championship 2024

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johnnycool

Quote from: marty34 on July 24, 2024, 10:24:36 AMStrange one. Anyone with a hamstring twinge doesn't start, never mind last a game like that. I find that odd. I thought his movement was good but Leen was really aggressive on him, especially in the second half. Leen did not let Horgan get on clean ball - he spoilt every ball and was quicker to the breakdown.


The thing I found strange was after Shanagher gave away a free (another one  :( ) at the death, that Collins took it, rather than Hoggie. I thought at the time that Horgan might have had the distance.  It was far out but I was surprised Horgan didn't have a go at it. Now Collins dropped it around the D. Not sure if the ploy for Cork was to break it/catch it and be close to goal to get a shot off.

Just wasn't Dalton'sday, especially from open play.  The slower puck outs didn't help him and Cork either.  That tactic, V Limerick, worked well but Murphy didn't allow i on Sunday.  He was very frustrated when he came off.



what you're saying is that Murphy applied the rules as they stand.

You can't take a puck out unless the referee blows the whistle AND everyone is outside the 20 metre line.






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Quote from: johnnycool on July 24, 2024, 12:35:36 PM
Quote from: marty34 on July 24, 2024, 10:24:36 AMStrange one. Anyone with a hamstring twinge doesn't start, never mind last a game like that. I find that odd. I thought his movement was good but Leen was really aggressive on him, especially in the second half. Leen did not let Horgan get on clean ball - he spoilt every ball and was quicker to the breakdown.


The thing I found strange was after Shanagher gave away a free (another one  :( ) at the death, that Collins took it, rather than Hoggie. I thought at the time that Horgan might have had the distance.  It was far out but I was surprised Horgan didn't have a go at it. Now Collins dropped it around the D. Not sure if the ploy for Cork was to break it/catch it and be close to goal to get a shot off.

Just wasn't Dalton'sday, especially from open play.  The slower puck outs didn't help him and Cork either.  That tactic, V Limerick, worked well but Murphy didn't allow i on Sunday.  He was very frustrated when he came off.



what you're saying is that Murphy applied the rules as they stand.

You can't take a puck out unless the referee blows the whistle AND everyone is outside the 20 metre line.







Refs whistle and defenders outside 21?

We get ourselves into this debate every year, soon as it comes to the big games the rules go out the window. Was there a hand pass blown for a throw in the whole game? (from my memory there wasn't - maybe the first game of the year)

John Conlon nearly taking the head of a lad and not a word.
A one handed wild pull from one of the throw ins and not a peep.
The list goes on and on of things that would get pulled in every league or early championship game but weren't in this game.

While as hurling people this is what we all want to see an epic like the final it becomes increasingly difficult to defend the double standard of rule application within the game.



ClubScene13

Cork in good shape going forward just a shame Limerick are gonna be back with a vengeance the next few years. That Kilkenny team got another 4 after they're 5-in-a-row was stopped.

Whole Cork starting team in their 20's except for Harnedy and Horgan.

Was Ben Cunningham injured this year? From the hurling I've seen him play he is a more than capable replacement for this iteration of Patrick Horgan, he is dead eye on the frees for St Finbarr's and a big lump of a lad.

The young lad William Buckley on this year's U20s another good one who could be molded in to take over from Harnedy, probably still a bit on the small side now though.

Pat Ryan already has a rapport with most of the young talent in Cork.


Worrying for Tipp and Waterford - though it never seems to be easy predicted any year down there

marty34

Horgan to be back next year so Cork will be chomping at thd bit again.

Surprised that Conor Lehane never got any game time on Sunday. I thought he'd be an ideal man to spring from the bench with 20mins to go.

Key thing that managers could do is give key older players a break during the NHL.  Let them off over the spring and get them right for championship.

Shane O'Donnell a prime example.

Plus it gives managers achance to use and strengthen the panel.


Saffrongael

Quote from: ClubScene13 on July 24, 2024, 04:40:33 PMCork in good shape going forward just a shame Limerick are gonna be back with a vengeance the next few years. That Kilkenny team got another 4 after they're 5-in-a-row was stopped.

Whole Cork starting team in their 20's except for Harnedy and Horgan.

Was Ben Cunningham injured this year? From the hurling I've seen him play he is a more than capable replacement for this iteration of Patrick Horgan, he is dead eye on the frees for St Finbarr's and a big lump of a lad.

The young lad William Buckley on this year's U20s another good one who could be molded in to take over from Harnedy, probably still a bit on the small side now though.

Pat Ryan already has a rapport with most of the young talent in Cork.


Worrying for Tipp and Waterford - though it never seems to be easy predicted any year down there

They were two different Kilkenny teams in fairness, pretty much.

The first 4 in a row team only had TJ, Richie Hogan & Micheál Fennelly for example as bit part players, there might be others. This Limerick iteration(to borrow a Seafoid phrase) has a few years in it yet you would think.

Cunningham injured most of the year, he was named in the extended panel (not the 26) for Sundays game, not sure about the semi. 
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come

Capt Pat

Does anyone know how many wides both teams had in the final? I can't find it on the internet.

Saffrongael

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Quote from: Capt Pat on July 25, 2024, 08:03:03 PMDoes anyone know how many wides both teams had in the final? I can't find it on the internet.

I'm sure I saw 15 each somewhere

https://x.com/gaelicstatsman/status/1815089536042725795?s=46&t=p6a2iuyvhhHTNPUOLtbXgA
Let no-one say the best hurlers belong to the past. They are with us now, and better yet to come