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Title: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Ball Hopper on October 31, 2022, 10:33:06 PM
Senior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) v The Nire (Waterford) at Clare venue, 13 Nov. 1:15pm
Nemo Rangers (Cork) v Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, 12 Nov. 7:15pm

Semi-Finals:

Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) v Clare or Waterford representatives at Kerry or Waterford venue, 27 Nov. 1pm
Newcastle West or Adare (Limerick) v Cork or Tipperary reps at Limerick or Tipperary venue, 27 Nov. 1pm

Final: 10 December 7:30pm

Intermediate Football

Quarter-Finals:

Kildysart (Clare) v Kanturk (Cork) at Clare venue, 13 Nov. 1:15pm
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) v Roanmore or Ballinameela (Waterford) at Limerick venue, 12 Nov. 1:15pm

Semi-Finals:

Beaufort, Killarney Legion, An Ghaeltacht or Rathmore (Kerry) v Clare or Cork representatives at Kerry or Cork venue on 26 Nov. 1pm
Ballina (Tipperary) v Limerick or Waterford reps at Limerick or Waterford venue, 27 Nov. 1pm

Final: 11 December 1pm

Junior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Feenagh-Kilmeedy or Castlemahon (Limerick) v Shamrocks (Waterford) at Limerick venue, 13 Nov. 1:15pm
Liscannor (Clare) v Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) at Clare venue, 12 Nov. 1:15pm

Semi-Finals:

Limerick or Waterford representatives v Listry, Ballymacelligott, Ardfert or Fossa (Kerry) at Limerick or Waterford venue on 26 Nov. 1pm
Clare or Tipperary reps v Kilmurry, Urhan, Cobh or Buttevant (Cork) at Clare or Tipperary venue, 26 Nov. 1pm

Final: 11 December 1pm

Senior Hurling

Quarter-final:

Ballygunner (Waterford) v Kilruane MacDonaghs (Tipperary) in Walsh Park, Waterford at 1:30pm on 6 Nov.

Semi-finals:

Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) v Quarter-final winner in Limerick or Tipperary venue on 20 Nov. 3:15pm
Ballyea (Clare) v St. Finbarr's (Cork) in Clare venue on 20 Nov. 1:15pm

Final: 3 December 3:15pm

Intermediate Hurling

Quarter-finals:

St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) v Causeway (Kerry) at Ennis on 5 Nov. 1:30pm
Roscrea (Tipperary) v Ballysaggart (Waterford) at Thurles on 6 Nov. 1:30pm

Semi-finals:

Monaleen (Limerick) v Clare/Kerry at Limerick or Kerry venue on 19 Nov. 1:15pm
Inniscarra (Cork) v Tipperary or Waterford reps at Tipp or Waterford venue on 19 Nov. 1:15pm.

Final: 4 December 1pm

Junior Hurling

Quarter-finals:

Kilgarvan (Kerry) v Banner (Clare) at Lewis Rd., Killarney on 5 Nov. 1:30pm
Grangemockler/Ballyneale (Tipperary) v Ballygiblin (Cork) at Cahir on 5 Nov. 1:30pm.

Semi-Finals:

St. Kieran's or Dromcollogher-Broadford (Limerick)v Kerry or Clare representatives at Limerick or Clare venue on 19 Nov. 1:15pm
Colligan (Waterford) v Tipperary or Cork representatives at Waterford or Cork venue on 20 Nov. 1:15pm

Final: 4 December 1pm

Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 06, 2022, 10:23:42 PM
Senior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) v The Nire (Waterford) at Clare venue, 13 Nov. 1:15pm
Nemo Rangers (Cork) v Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, 12 Nov. 7:15pm

Semi-Finals:

Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) v Clare or Waterford representatives at Kerry or Waterford venue, 27 Nov. 1pm
Newcastle West (Limerick) v Cork or Tipperary reps at Limerick or Tipperary venue, 27 Nov. 1pm

Final: 10 December 7:30pm

Intermediate Football

Quarter-Finals:

Kildysart (Clare) v Kanturk (Cork) at Clare venue, 13 Nov. 1:15pm
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) v Roanmore (Waterford) at Limerick venue, 12 Nov. 1:15pm

Semi-Finals:
An Ghaeltacht or Rathmore (Kerry) v Clare or Cork representatives at Kerry or Cork venue on 26 Nov. 1pm
Ballina (Tipperary) v Limerick or Waterford reps at Limerick or Waterford venue, 27 Nov. 1pm

Final: 11 December 1pm

Junior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Castlemahon (Limerick) v Shamrocks (Waterford) at Limerick venue, 13 Nov. 1:15pm
Liscannor (Clare) v Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) at Clare venue, 12 Nov. 1:15pm

Semi-Finals:

Limerick or Waterford representatives v Listry or Fossa (Kerry) at Limerick or Waterford venue on 26 Nov. 1pm
Clare or Tipperary reps v Kilmurry or Cobh (Cork) at Clare or Tipperary venue, 26 Nov. 1pm

Final: 11 December 1pm

Senior Hurling

Quarter-final:

Ballygunner (Waterford) 4-19 Kilruane MacDonaghs (Tipperary) 0-14

Semi-finals:

Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) v Ballygunner (Waterford) in Limerick venue on 20 Nov. 3:15pm
Ballyea (Clare) v St. Finbarr's (Cork) in Ennis on 20 Nov. 1:15pm

Final: 3 December 3:15pm

Intermediate Hurling

Quarter-finals:

St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) 1-23 Causeway (Kerry) 1-16
Roscrea (Tipperary) v Ballysaggart (Waterford) at Thurles on 6 Nov. 1:30pm

Semi-finals:

Monaleen (Limerick) v St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) at Limerick venue on 19 Nov. 1:15pm
Inniscarra (Cork) v Tipperary or Waterford reps at Tipp or Waterford venue on 19 Nov. 1:15pm

Final: 4 December 1pm

Junior Hurling

Quarter-finals:

Banner (Clare) 2-15 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 1-15
Ballygiblin (Cork) 2-10 Grangemockler/Ballyneale (Tipperary) 0-11

Semi-Finals:

Banner (Clare) v St. Kieran's (Limerick) at Clare venue on 19 Nov. 1:15pm
Ballygiblin (Cork) v Colligan (Waterford) at Cork venue on 20 Nov. 1:15pm

Final: 4 December 1pm
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: clarshack on November 12, 2022, 04:12:43 PM
Fossa beat Listry in a classic Kerry Junior final 4-15 to 0-22. David Clifford with 2-12.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 12, 2022, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 12, 2022, 04:12:43 PM
Fossa beat Listry in a classic Kerry Junior final 4-15 to 0-22. David Clifford with 2-12.

Apparently this year for club and county David Clifford has played 30 Games and scored 20-155.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: LeoMc on November 12, 2022, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 12, 2022, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 12, 2022, 04:12:43 PM
Fossa beat Listry in a classic Kerry Junior final 4-15 to 0-22. David Clifford with 2-12.

Apparently this year for club and David Clifford has played 30 Games and scored 20-155.
That is a lot of club games. Would any other County give their County players as many club matches?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Captain Obvious on November 12, 2022, 07:20:13 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on November 12, 2022, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 12, 2022, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 12, 2022, 04:12:43 PM
Fossa beat Listry in a classic Kerry Junior final 4-15 to 0-22. David Clifford with 2-12.

Apparently this year for club and David Clifford has played 30 Games and scored 20-155.
That is a lot of club games. Would any other County give their County players as many club matches?

Left out the county bit.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on November 12, 2022, 07:47:06 PM
Not many has bothered to turn up for this Nemo Rangers v Clonmel Commercials game currently live on RTE, any sense playing it in a stadium as big as Páirc Uí Chaoimh?

Decent game thus far with Clonmel leading 2-4 to 0-6.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: shark on November 12, 2022, 08:27:16 PM
Clonmel have been really good.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on November 12, 2022, 08:37:16 PM
Clonmel performance as good as I've seen this year. 2-15 to 1-11 winners
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: LeoMc on November 12, 2022, 08:57:41 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 12, 2022, 07:20:13 PM
Quote from: LeoMc on November 12, 2022, 06:51:05 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on November 12, 2022, 05:16:47 PM
Quote from: clarshack on November 12, 2022, 04:12:43 PM
Fossa beat Listry in a classic Kerry Junior final 4-15 to 0-22. David Clifford with 2-12.

Apparently this year for club and David Clifford has played 30 Games and scored 20-155.
That is a lot of club games. Would any other County give their County players as many club matches?

Left out the county bit.

:-[
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: yellowcard on November 12, 2022, 09:02:11 PM
In possession that was as good a performance by Clonmel as you're likely to see all year from a club side. If they can cut down on the concession of scoreable free kicks and repeat that display it will take a good side to beat them.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: smort on November 12, 2022, 09:07:46 PM
Have watched a lot of football this year and that's as good as I've seen

Hopefully they don't get carried away though. They are rightly delighted with the performance but need to stay focused
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: seafoid on November 12, 2022, 09:26:47 PM
Another good win for Tipp football after 2020
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: clarshack on November 12, 2022, 09:32:49 PM
Caught the 2nd half and have to agree that Clonmel were very impressive.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 14, 2022, 01:49:13 AM
Edited 21 Nov. with hurling results from 19/20 Nov. and venue updates for football semi-finals.

Senior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) 3-11 The Nire (Waterford) 0-5
Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) 2-15 Nemo Rangers (Cork) 0-11

Semi-Finals:

Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) v Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) at Austin Stack Park, Tralee, 27 Nov. 1pm
Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) v Newcastle West (Limerick) at Semple Stadium, Thurles, 27 Nov. 1pm

Final: 10 December 7:30pm

Intermediate Football

Quarter-Finals:

Kanturk (Cork) 3-11 Kildysart (Clare) 0-6
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-10 Roanmore (Waterford) 1-5

Semi-Finals:

Kanturk (Cork) v Rathmore (Kerry) at Páirc Uí Chaoimh, 26 Nov. 1pm
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) v Ballina (Tipperary) at Kilmallock, 27 Nov. 1pm

Final: 11 December 1pm

Junior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Castlemahon (Limerick) 1-18 Shamrocks (Waterford) 2-12
Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 1-9 Liscannor (Clare) 0-7

Semi-Finals:

Castlemahon (Limerick) v Fossa (Kerry) at Limerick venue on 26 Nov. 1pm
Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) v Kilmurry (Cork) at Templetuohy, 26 Nov. 1pm

Final: 11 December 1pm

Senior Hurling

Quarter-final:

Ballygunner (Waterford) 4-19 Kilruane MacDonaghs (Tipperary) 0-14

Semi-finals:

Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-20 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-15
Ballyea (Clare) 1-12 St. Finbarr's (Cork) 0-14

Final: Ballygunner (Waterford) v Ballyea (Clare) venue TBD, 3 December 3:15pm

Intermediate Hurling

Quarter-finals:

St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) 1-23 Causeway (Kerry) 1-16
Roscrea (Tipperary) 4-21 Ballysaggart (Waterford) 0-15

Semi-finals:
Monaleen (Limerick) 2-13 St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) 0-16
Roscrea (Tipperary) 1-17 Inniscarra (Cork) v 3-9

Final: Roscrea (Tipperary) v Monaleen (Limerick) Venue TBD, 4 December 1pm

Junior Hurling

Quarter-finals:

Banner (Clare) 2-15 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 1-15
Ballygiblin (Cork) 2-10 Grangemockler/Ballyneale (Tipperary) 0-11

Semi-Finals:
St. Kieran's (Limerick) 0-17 Banner (Clare) 0-16
Ballygiblin (Cork) 1-19 Colligan (Waterford) 0-10

Final: Ballygiblin (Cork) v St. Kieran's (Limerick), venue TBD, 4 December 1pm
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on November 27, 2022, 08:27:47 AM
Easy wins for the Kerry Senior B Champions in the Munster Intermediate Championship and Kerry intermediate B Champions in the Munster Junior Championship.
Fossa put the game to bed as a contest by half-time, leading 1-11 to a single point.

In the Rathmore Kanturk game the home-county side scored only once more before the break and trailed 1-10 to 0-2 at the turnaround.

Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: smort on November 27, 2022, 02:28:00 PM
Extra time for clonmel
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 27, 2022, 03:20:35 PM
Quote from: smort on November 27, 2022, 02:28:00 PM
Extra time for clonmel
how did this go?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Tatler Jack on November 27, 2022, 03:24:40 PM
https://twitter.com/commercialsgaa/status/1596882588500889601?s=46&t=uhrm1689ohcUfQH14ekL7A
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Armagh18 on November 27, 2022, 04:02:26 PM
Quote from: Tatler Jack on November 27, 2022, 03:24:40 PM
https://twitter.com/commercialsgaa/status/1596882588500889601?s=46&t=uhrm1689ohcUfQH14ekL7A
Bit of a shock? MC were superb against Nemo
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on November 27, 2022, 04:03:20 PM
Some win for Newcastle West. With the Limerick footballers playing in Div 2 next year the big ball is rising in the county.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 27, 2022, 10:49:34 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on November 27, 2022, 08:27:47 AM
Easy wins for the Kerry Senior B  Intermediate Champions (the county's second level) in the Munster Intermediate Championship and Kerry intermediate B Junior Premier Champions (the county's third level) in the Munster Junior Championship.
Fossa put the game to bed as a contest by half-time, leading 1-11 to a single point.

In the Rathmore Kanturk game the home-county side scored only once more before the break and trailed 1-10 to 0-2 at the turnaround.

Fixed your post there.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Ball Hopper on November 27, 2022, 10:56:08 PM
Update November 27:

Senior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) 3-11 The Nire (Waterford) 0-5
Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) 2-15 Nemo Rangers (Cork) 0-11

Semi-Finals:

Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) 1-9 Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) 1-8
Newcastle West (Limerick) 1-16 Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) 1-11

Final: Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) v Newcastle West (Limerick) 10 December, venue TBC 7:30pm

Intermediate Football

Quarter-Finals:

Kanturk (Cork) 3-11 Kildysart (Clare) 0-6
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-10 Roanmore (Waterford) 1-5

Semi-Finals:

Rathmore (Kerry) 1-17 Kanturk (Cork) 2-6
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 1-5 Ballina (Tipperary) 0-8, Na Pairsaigh (Limerick) win 4-2 on penalties

Final: Rathmore (Kerry) v Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 11 December, venue TBC 1pm

Junior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Castlemahon (Limerick) 1-18 Shamrocks (Waterford) 2-12
Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 1-9 Liscannor (Clare) 0-7

Semi-Finals:

Fossa (Kerry) 1-22 Castlemahon (Limerick) 0-5
Kilmurry (Cork) 2-11 Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 0-12

Final: Kilmurry (Cork) v Fossa (Kerry) 11 December, venue TBC 1pm

Senior Hurling

Quarter-final:

Ballygunner (Waterford) 4-19 Kilruane MacDonaghs (Tipperary) 0-14

Semi-finals:

Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-20 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-15
Ballyea (Clare) 1-12 St. Finbarr's (Cork) 0-14

Final: Ballygunner (Waterford) v Ballyea (Clare) Thurles, 3 December 3:15pm

Intermediate Hurling

Quarter-finals:

St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) 1-23 Causeway (Kerry) 1-16
Roscrea (Tipperary) 4-21 Ballysaggart (Waterford) 0-15

Semi-finals:

Monaleen (Limerick) 2-13 St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) 0-16
Roscrea (Tipperary) 1-17 Inniscarra (Cork) v 3-9

Final: Roscrea (Tipperary) v Monaleen (Limerick) Páirc Uí Rinn, 4 December 1pm

Junior Hurling

Quarter-finals:

Banner (Clare) 2-15 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 1-15
Ballygiblin (Cork) 2-10 Grangemockler/Ballyneale (Tipperary) 0-11

Semi-Finals:

St. Kieran's (Limerick) 0-17 Banner (Clare) 0-16
Ballygiblin (Cork) 1-19 Colligan (Waterford) 0-10

Final: Ballygiblin (Cork) v St. Kieran's (Limerick), Mallow, 4 December 1pm
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Ball Hopper on December 05, 2022, 11:10:56 PM
Update December 4, football finals 10/11 December

Senior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) 3-11 The Nire (Waterford) 0-5
Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) 2-15 Nemo Rangers (Cork) 0-11

Semi-Finals:

Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) 1-9 Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) 1-8
Newcastle West (Limerick) 1-16 Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) 1-11

Final: Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) v Newcastle West (Limerick) 10 December, Páirc Uí Rinn 7:30pm

Intermediate Football

Quarter-Finals:

Kanturk (Cork) 3-11 Kildysart (Clare) 0-6
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-10 Roanmore (Waterford) 1-5

Semi-Finals:

Rathmore (Kerry) 1-17 Kanturk (Cork) 2-6
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 1-5 Ballina (Tipperary) 0-8, Na Pairsaigh (Limerick) win 4-2 on penalties

Final: Rathmore (Kerry) v Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 11 December, Mallow 3:30pm

Junior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Castlemahon (Limerick) 1-18 Shamrocks (Waterford) 2-12
Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 1-9 Liscannor (Clare) 0-7

Semi-Finals:

Fossa (Kerry) 1-22 Castlemahon (Limerick) 0-5
Kilmurry (Cork) 2-11 Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 0-12

Final: Kilmurry (Cork) v Fossa (Kerry) 11 December, Mallow 1pm

Senior Hurling

Quarter-final:

Ballygunner (Waterford) 4-19 Kilruane MacDonaghs (Tipperary) 0-14

Semi-finals:

Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-20 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-15
Ballyea (Clare) 1-12 St. Finbarr's (Cork) 0-14

Final: Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-23 Ballyea (Clare) 0-17

Intermediate Hurling

Quarter-finals:

St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) 1-23 Causeway (Kerry) 1-16
Roscrea (Tipperary) 4-21 Ballysaggart (Waterford) 0-15

Semi-finals:

Monaleen (Limerick) 2-13 St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) 0-16
Roscrea (Tipperary) 1-17 Inniscarra (Cork) v 3-9

Final: Monaleen (Limerick) 1-22 Roscrea (Tipperary) 0-18

Junior Hurling

Quarter-finals:

Banner (Clare) 2-15 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 1-15
Ballygiblin (Cork) 2-10 Grangemockler/Ballyneale (Tipperary) 0-11

Semi-Finals:

St. Kieran's (Limerick) 0-17 Banner (Clare) 0-16
Ballygiblin (Cork) 1-19 Colligan (Waterford) 0-10

Final: Ballygiblin (Cork) 3-12 St. Kieran's (Limerick) 0-11

Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Milltown Row2 on December 06, 2022, 10:42:14 AM
Would the third best club team in Kerry Kerins O'Rahilly's be good enough to beat this unfancied Limerick team handy enough? -2 is the betting on that one
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:01:36 PM
Junior Munster final result.  Fossa (Kerry) 1-17. Kilmurry (Cork) 1-6. David Clifford 10 points and Paudie Clifford 1-4


Half time in the Munster Intermediate Final Rathmore (Kerry) 0-10 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 0-4  and result 1-17 to 0-10
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 11, 2022, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:01:36 PM
Junior Munster final result.  Fossa (Kerry) 1-17. Kilmurry (Cork) 1-6. David Clifford 10 points and Paudie Clifford 1-4


Half time in the Munster Intermediate Final Rathmore (Kerry) 0-10 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 0-4  and result 1-17 to 0-10

Something has to be done about higher graded Kerry teams entering the Munster and All Ireland Club championship.

Half of what are senior teams in other counties play in the Intermediate championship and half of the intermediate team play in the Junior championship.

It creates a huge imbalance and champions from other counties artificially look weaker. 

If Mayo was the same, these would be the teams in:

Intermediate
Mayo Gaels, The Neale,  Belmullet, Balla, Aghamore, Ballaghdereen, Davitts, Charlestown
Louisburgh, Crossmolina, Ballinrobe, Parke, Ballyhaunis, Moy Davitts, Hollymount-Carramore, Kilmeena

Junior
Burrishoole, Kiltane, Kiltimagh, Kilmaine, Ardnaree, Castlebar B, Lahardane, Bonniconlon
Islandeady, Cill Comain, Eastern Gaels, Swinford, Ardagh, Killala
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: seafoid on December 11, 2022, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 11, 2022, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:01:36 PM
Junior Munster final result.  Fossa (Kerry) 1-17. Kilmurry (Cork) 1-6. David Clifford 10 points and Paudie Clifford 1-4


Half time in the Munster Intermediate Final Rathmore (Kerry) 0-10 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 0-4  and result 1-17 to 0-10

Something has to be done about higher graded Kerry teams entering the Munster and All Ireland Club championship.

Half of what are senior teams in other counties play in the Intermediate championship and half of the intermediate team play in the Junior championship.

It creates a huge imbalance and champions from other counties artificially look weaker. 

If Mayo was the same, these would be the teams in:

Intermediate
Mayo Gaels, The Neale,  Belmullet, Balla, Aghamore, Ballaghdereen, Davitts, Charlestown
Louisburgh, Crossmolina, Ballinrobe, Parke, Ballyhaunis, Moy Davitts, Hollymount-Carramore, Kilmeena

Junior
Burrishoole, Kiltane, Kiltimagh, Kilmaine, Ardnaree, Castlebar B, Lahardane, Bonniconlon
Islandeady, Cill Comain, Eastern Gaels, Swinford, Ardagh, Killala

Great analysis.
The divisional teams are the source of the imbalance in the lower divisions.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 07:32:57 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 11, 2022, 06:58:36 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 11, 2022, 04:01:36 PM
Junior Munster final result.  Fossa (Kerry) 1-17. Kilmurry (Cork) 1-6. David Clifford 10 points and Paudie Clifford 1-4


Half time in the Munster Intermediate Final Rathmore (Kerry) 0-10 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 0-4  and result 1-17 to 0-10

Something has to be done about higher graded Kerry teams entering the Munster and All Ireland Club championship.

Half of what are senior teams in other counties play in the Intermediate championship and half of the intermediate team play in the Junior championship.

It creates a huge imbalance and champions from other counties artificially look weaker. 

If Mayo was the same, these would be the teams in:

Intermediate
Mayo Gaels, The Neale,  Belmullet, Balla, Aghamore, Ballaghdereen, Davitts, Charlestown
Louisburgh, Crossmolina, Ballinrobe, Parke, Ballyhaunis, Moy Davitts, Hollymount-Carramore, Kilmeena

Junior
Burrishoole, Kiltane, Kiltimagh, Kilmaine, Ardnaree, Castlebar B, Lahardane, Bonniconlon
Islandeady, Cill Comain, Eastern Gaels, Swinford, Ardagh, Killala

seventh time in 17 years that Kerry clubs have done the provincial treble.  Other years was (thanks to GAA stats)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjtoJz9WYAgSqG6?format=jpg&name=large)
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 11, 2022, 09:16:31 PM
Kerry Clubs have won every Munster Intermediate club title bar one since 2006.
Kerry Clubs have won every Munster Junior club title bar three since 2001.

There is a reason for this dominance.

When we get to the level playing field of senior. The dominance drops.

Kerry Clubs have won only 9 Munster senior titles since 1997.






Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Rossfan on December 11, 2022, 09:25:43 PM
Don't be worrying you poor headeen about it Bunker.
I'd be more concerned about all that Galway won the year.
Happy Christmas.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Ball Hopper on December 12, 2022, 12:55:52 AM
All done for 2022.

Senior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) 3-11 The Nire (Waterford) 0-5
Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) 2-15 Nemo Rangers (Cork) 0-11

Semi-Finals:

Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) 1-9 Éire Óg Ennis (Clare) 1-8
Newcastle West (Limerick) 1-16 Clonmel Commercials (Tipperary) 1-11

Final: Kerins O'Rahilly's (Kerry) 2-6 Newcastle West (Limerick) 1-8

Intermediate Football

Quarter-Finals:

Kanturk (Cork) 3-11 Kildysart (Clare) 0-6
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-10 Roanmore (Waterford) 1-5

Semi-Finals:

Rathmore (Kerry) 1-17 Kanturk (Cork) 2-6
Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 1-5 Ballina (Tipperary) 0-8, Na Pairsaigh (Limerick) win 4-2 on penalties

Final: Rathmore (Kerry) 1-17 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 0-10

Junior Football

Quarter-Finals:

Castlemahon (Limerick) 1-18 Shamrocks (Waterford) 2-12
Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 1-9 Liscannor (Clare) 0-7

Semi-Finals:

Fossa (Kerry) 1-22 Castlemahon (Limerick) 0-5
Kilmurry (Cork) 2-11 Thurles Sarsfields (Tipperary) 0-12

Final: Fossa (Kerry) 1-17 Kilmurry (Cork) 1-6

Senior Hurling

Quarter-final:

Ballygunner (Waterford) 4-19 Kilruane MacDonaghs (Tipperary) 0-14

Semi-finals:

Ballygunner (Waterford) 2-20 Na Piarsaigh (Limerick) 2-15
Ballyea (Clare) 1-12 St. Finbarr's (Cork) 0-14

Final: Ballygunner (Waterford) 1-23 Ballyea (Clare) 0-17

Intermediate Hurling

Quarter-finals:

St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) 1-23 Causeway (Kerry) 1-16
Roscrea (Tipperary) 4-21 Ballysaggart (Waterford) 0-15

Semi-finals:

Monaleen (Limerick) 2-13 St Joseph's Doora Barefield (Clare) 0-16
Roscrea (Tipperary) 1-17 Inniscarra (Cork) v 3-9

Final: Monaleen (Limerick) 1-22 Roscrea (Tipperary) 0-18

Junior Hurling

Quarter-finals:

Banner (Clare) 2-15 Kilgarvan (Kerry) 1-15
Ballygiblin (Cork) 2-10 Grangemockler/Ballyneale (Tipperary) 0-11

Semi-Finals:

St. Kieran's (Limerick) 0-17 Banner (Clare) 0-16
Ballygiblin (Cork) 1-19 Colligan (Waterford) 0-10

Final: Ballygiblin (Cork) 3-12 St. Kieran's (Limerick) 0-11
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 12, 2022, 05:30:46 PM
Kerry Clubs have won every Munster Intermediate club title bar one since 2006.
Kerry Clubs have won every Munster Junior club title bar three since 2001.

There is a reason for this dominance.

When we get to the level playing field of senior. The dominance drops.

Kerry Clubs have won only 9 Munster senior titles since 1997.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 12, 2022, 05:47:49 PM
They not playing against their level, that why. what's in Kerry 64 teams? Should be 4 divisions of 16. Ie. Your, Junior champions are about the 33rd best team in Kerry. I say Fossa nowhere near that position?. Intermediate wise your 13th best team on paper up normally against the 17th best team in another county at intermediate level. How strong is Dublin club fball, do they win much at Intermediate or Junior, normally can't get out of Leinster as they put the proper level forward.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 12, 2022, 06:04:03 PM
Yes the Kerry Intermediate champions are basically senior but they have found the All Ireland series more difficult to win than Munster.  Last five Intermediate All Irelands only won once by a Kerry team (Kilcummin 2019) and no other Kerry team even reached the final. 

Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 12, 2022, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 12, 2022, 06:04:03 PM
Yes the Kerry Intermediate champions are basically senior but they have found the All Ireland series more difficult to win than Munster.  Last five Intermediate All Irelands only won once by a Kerry team (Kilcummin 2019) and no other Kerry team even reached the final.

Kerry teams have won 6 AI Intermediate titles since 2007.

Junior is a procession 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2020.

On a level playing field - Senior Kerry teams have won ONE Senior Club All Ireland since 1997.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Blowitupref on December 12, 2022, 06:35:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 12, 2022, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 12, 2022, 06:04:03 PM
Yes the Kerry Intermediate champions are basically senior but they have found the All Ireland series more difficult to win than Munster.  Last five Intermediate All Irelands only won once by a Kerry team (Kilcummin 2019) and no other Kerry team even reached the final.

Kerry teams have won 6 AI Intermediate titles since 2007.

Junior is a procession 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2020.

On a level playing field - Senior Kerry teams have won ONE Senior Club All Ireland since 1997.

A lot less than their dominance at Munster level so makes one wonder how strong are the Cork,Tipp,Clare etc reps are at Intermediate Munster level?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: From the Bunker on December 12, 2022, 06:38:24 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 12, 2022, 05:47:49 PM
They not playing against their level, that why. what's in Kerry 64 teams? Should be 4 divisions of 16. Ie. Your, Junior champions are about the 33rd best team in Kerry. I say Fossa nowhere near that position?. Intermediate wise your 13th best team on paper up normally against the 17th best team in another county at intermediate level. How strong is Dublin club fball, do they win much at Intermediate or Junior, normally can't get out of Leinster as they put the proper level forward.

In Kerry's case it is the 9th best team on paper.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Gael85 on December 12, 2022, 10:27:42 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 12, 2022, 06:35:59 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on December 12, 2022, 06:16:49 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on December 12, 2022, 06:04:03 PM
Yes the Kerry Intermediate champions are basically senior but they have found the All Ireland series more difficult to win than Munster.  Last five Intermediate All Irelands only won once by a Kerry team (Kilcummin 2019) and no other Kerry team even reached the final.

Kerry teams have won 6 AI Intermediate titles since 2007.

Junior is a procession 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2020.

On a level playing field - Senior Kerry teams have won ONE Senior Club All Ireland since 1997.

A lot less than their dominance at Munster level so makes one wonder how strong are the Cork,Tipp,Clare etc reps are at Intermediate Munster level?

Clare last two intermediate winners would be fairly strong. Last year winner Corofin were beaten by 18 points by Na Gaeil in Munster final. They were beaten in Clare senior semi final by Eire Og this year. Kildysart this year winners who be decent were beaten by Kanturk Cork by 14 points who then lost to Rathmore by 8 points. Clare has 12 seniors and 12 inter teams.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Gael85 on December 12, 2022, 10:33:47 PM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on December 12, 2022, 05:47:49 PM
They not playing against their level, that why. what's in Kerry 64 teams? Should be 4 divisions of 16. Ie. Your, Junior champions are about the 33rd best team in Kerry. I say Fossa nowhere near that position?. Intermediate wise your 13th best team on paper up normally against the 17th best team in another county at intermediate level. How strong is Dublin club fball, do they win much at Intermediate or Junior, normally can't get out of Leinster as they put the proper level forward.

Dublin have changed format of championship years ago. They divided senior championship into A&B 16 teams each. They changed Intermediate & junior championship to first team only championship which is 16 teams each. Intermeditate championship range from teams Division 2-5. Junior championship championship range from teams from Division 4-10. They wouldn't generally do well in Inter/Junior championship in Leinster.

A separate intermediate/junior championship is played for clubs with more one than one adult team.
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Wildweasel74 on December 12, 2022, 11:56:54 PM
How far down the pecking order is, Kilmurray in Cork, where they list in the order if best rated teams in Cork?
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Rossfan on December 13, 2022, 10:06:45 AM
25th I'd say.
12 Premier Senior
12 Senior A
Title: Re: Munster Club Championships 2022
Post by: Eire90 on December 13, 2022, 10:50:33 AM
Should kerry not have a separate competition for divisional teams and call it the kerry divisional championship and play it some other time of year instead of trying to steal tv time while other counties club championships are on kerry should play their club championship same time as everyone else. They also say divisional system is so good players play against the best is not  a bit like fifa saying erling halland cant win a world cup with norway so lets create a Scandinavian  team.