The far right

[burdizzo]

You've made no point..

I've asked you is there a minimum wage structure in the south?

That's a yes or no answer

You've already said that there is a cohort of people that are happy to rape the system dry

And a cohort of people who don't get enough to run things? That's down to them. If you think people should get paid more money then that's down to employers.

If someone applies for a job, they'll know how much it pays, only a header would apply for a job that's not ( for them) cover their needs

If we have to bring in immigrants to fill the jobs that the locals won't do, then there should be no complaints about bringing them.

Also put me on ignore.

No, I've never put anyone on ignore. Wouldn't stoop to that. I just don't bother answering most of your posts.

I'll give the example of a meat factory, because there's one near to where I live. Not so long ago, this was worked by Irish people from the locality. They were prepared to do so, and it gave them enough to run the basic things of living in Ireland - car, family, etc. Now these factories have barely any Irish people in them, because people come from other countries and work for low wages that are more than adequate to run a family, mortgage, etc., in their own country, but not here. It's not that the Irish WON'T do this work, it's that they CAN'T AFFORD to - if they want the normal things people aspire to in this country. You say it's up to employers to give a living wage, but why the hell would they when the government has simply opened up the labour market to all and sundry from anywhere and everywhere?! You sound a bit like a Tory, actually.

I mentioned the Irish Ferries thing before. The unions have been absolutely defeated on this, partly because of name-calling idiots who think cutting off their nose does no more than spite their face.

[Milltown Row2]

You've made no point..

I've asked you is there a minimum wage structure in the south?

That's a yes or no answer

You've already said that there is a cohort of people that are happy to rape the system dry

And a cohort of people who don't get enough to run things? That's down to them. If you think people should get paid more money then that's down to employers.

If someone applies for a job, they'll know how much it pays, only a header would apply for a job that's not ( for them) cover their needs

If we have to bring in immigrants to fill the jobs that the locals won't do, then there should be no complaints about bringing them.

Also put me on ignore.

No, I've never put anyone on ignore. Wouldn't stoop to that. I just don't bother answering most of your posts.

I'll give the example of a meat factory, because there's one near to where I live. Not so long ago, this was worked by Irish people from the locality. They were prepared to do so, and it gave them enough to run the basic things of living in Ireland - car, family, etc. Now these factories have barely any Irish people in them, because people come from other countries and work for low wages that are more than adequate to run a family, mortgage, etc., in their own country, but not here. It's not that the Irish WON'T do this work, it's that they CAN'T AFFORD to - if they want the normal things people aspire to in this country. You say it's up to employers to give a living wage, but why the hell would they when the government has simply opened up the labour market to all and sundry from anywhere and everywhere?! You sound a bit like a Tory, actually.

I mentioned the Irish Ferries thing before. The unions have been absolutely defeated on this, partly because of name-calling idiots who think cutting off their nose does no more than spite their face.

So the south doesn't have a minimum wage structure?

Can these white Irish natives get all the things you have mentioned by not working?

Employers are looking at costs to stay open, if you were to run a business you need to make it profitable otherwise why would you run it? A successful business is one that is making 5% profit after its outgoings

I used to place students into work, getting them through their qualifications and apprenticeships, speaking to employers every day, one major engineering employer had a lot of Poles working for them, he showed me a simple manufacturing chart on production, the production of the Poles in comparison to the white local Irish natives, simply put, if the poles were not working there the place would have closed.

The Poles were able to live here, have a car either rent or buy a house and still send money home, maybe the asperations of some need to be matched by their effort at work, if you have high asperations then you need to look for employment that will match that..

 

[burdizzo]

You've made no point..

I've asked you is there a minimum wage structure in the south?

That's a yes or no answer

You've already said that there is a cohort of people that are happy to rape the system dry

And a cohort of people who don't get enough to run things? That's down to them. If you think people should get paid more money then that's down to employers.

If someone applies for a job, they'll know how much it pays, only a header would apply for a job that's not ( for them) cover their needs

If we have to bring in immigrants to fill the jobs that the locals won't do, then there should be no complaints about bringing them.

Also put me on ignore.

No, I've never put anyone on ignore. Wouldn't stoop to that. I just don't bother answering most of your posts.

I'll give the example of a meat factory, because there's one near to where I live. Not so long ago, this was worked by Irish people from the locality. They were prepared to do so, and it gave them enough to run the basic things of living in Ireland - car, family, etc. Now these factories have barely any Irish people in them, because people come from other countries and work for low wages that are more than adequate to run a family, mortgage, etc., in their own country, but not here. It's not that the Irish WON'T do this work, it's that they CAN'T AFFORD to - if they want the normal things people aspire to in this country. You say it's up to employers to give a living wage, but why the hell would they when the government has simply opened up the labour market to all and sundry from anywhere and everywhere?! You sound a bit like a Tory, actually.

I mentioned the Irish Ferries thing before. The unions have been absolutely defeated on this, partly because of name-calling idiots who think cutting off their nose does no more than spite their face.

So the south doesn't have a minimum wage structure?

Can these white Irish natives get all the things you have mentioned by not working?

Employers are looking at costs to stay open, if you were to run a business you need to make it profitable otherwise why would you run it? A successful business is one that is making 5% profit after its outgoings

I used to place students into work, getting them through their qualifications and apprenticeships, speaking to employers every day, one major engineering employer had a lot of Poles working for them, he showed me a simple manufacturing chart on production, the production of the Poles in comparison to the white local Irish natives, simply put, if the poles were not working there the place would have closed.

The Poles were able to live here, have a car either rent or buy a house and still send money home, maybe the asperations of some need to be matched by their effort at work, if you have high asperations then you need to look for employment that will match that..

 

Well, I agree with the last bit. Some people tie themselves up in debt because they want to 'keep up with the Jones'', or whatever. Still doesn't change the fact that importing workers helps keep wage costs down.

[Rossfan]

Another group for Whitey's/Burdys heroic defenders to drink with....

https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sunday-life/news/far-right-protestant-militia-linked-to-race-hate-arson-attack-at-belfast-church/a1082365934.html

[Truthsayer]

It is a typical strategy of the far right to point the finger at immigrants blaming 'them' for state of the economy, housing prizes, rental prices, exploitation and just about everything else caused by capitalist employers and right wing governance. Of course the governments love that... the level of worker explotation here is shocking and people need to mobilise against the employers/government not the migrants.
I've had the misfortune to work in the meat factories down south decades ago owned by Larry Goodman... dreadful pay and hours and not a migrant worker in the place.
Rather than rhetoric show us actual figures to back these claims that wages were hughely reduced to replace locals and entice foreign workers.. 

[From the Bunker]

Ex-Hardy Bucks star asks if Enoch Burke would have been arrested 'if he was Muslim

https://tinyurl.com/5frwuv87

[Rossfan]

If my aunt.....

Meanwhile whiteyburdys heroic defenders at it again.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/munster/arid-41470444.html

[From the Bunker]

If my aunt.....

Ironically that's what the argument is about......

[seafoid]

Far right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.

[From the Bunker]

Far right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.

Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.

[burdizzo]

Far right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.

Brexit is a terrible example. Tory Brexit was a globalist project - exactly the opposite of what people voted for.

[seafoid]

Far right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.

Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.

Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?

[Armagh18]

Far right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.

Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.

Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?

They've huge chunks of land that are basically useless due to the cold, if the northern ice continued to melt they'd be able to use it?

[burdizzo]

Far right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.

Far Right is the distraction from problems that governments don't want to solve.

Like Russia ?
Why are they anti climate action?

Open borders is anti-climate action.

[seafoid]

Far right is all about distraction and preventing problems being solved.
Brexit is a great example.

Brexit is a terrible example. Tory Brexit was a globalist project - exactly the opposite of what people voted for.

It was an elite project wrapped up in far right rhetoric.