Armagh v Derry - Ulster Final, 14th May, 2023 @ 4pm

Started by Walter Cronc, May 01, 2023, 08:04:14 AM

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eachaidh

Quote from: downtown on May 14, 2023, 10:24:39 PM
What was mc kinless at before o neill hit that 50 in second half?

Stretching his back or something like that. I've seen him doing it before games and at various points in games for the best part of the last two years watching Derry.

screenexile

The Derry team has been wearing the Red geansai pretty much all the time the past few years. I'm sure had the Ulster Council advised them to change they would have. We wore the white kit against Louth in the league.

armaghniac

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Quote from: screenexile on May 14, 2023, 10:33:25 PM
The Derry team has been wearing the Red geansai pretty much all the time the past few years. I'm sure had the Ulster Council advised them to change they would have. We wore the white kit against Louth in the league.

It wasn't a severe clash at the actual game, but perhaps it would on a cheap TV.

Quote from: Mourne Red on May 14, 2023, 10:30:30 PM
Quote from: square_ball on May 14, 2023, 10:25:16 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 14, 2023, 10:22:52 PM

Armagh have had three penalty shoot-outs and lost all three. Should we have brought on a specialist keeper at the end?

Would any keeper in Ireland have saved Glass or McFaul's penalties? I don't think so.

Don't think any keeper in GAA or Soccer would have saved them.. 2 cracking pens

Much harder for the goalie than any of the Armagh efforts.Perhaps Armagh will learn to stay ahead in extra time, since they are shite at penalties.

I did previously suggest in jest that they should have investigated bringing on Aimee Mackin from the previous game to the penalties.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Decod89

Quote from: screenexile on May 14, 2023, 10:19:33 PM
What antics were Derry at? The only thing I saw was McGuigan charging after the ball in the middle of getting treatment which wasn't great. Other than that I didn't see anything dirty from us!

Just saw Flynn and Keegan tell us Tyrone are still the team to beat in Ulster anyway so what even is the point of the Ulster championship?

I just caught this and couldn't believe what I was hearing. There's not a massive gap between Derry and Armagh. And if Tyrone had been narrowly beaten by either you could understand it. But theyve won 1 championship game since the all Ireland of 2021 and were beaten by both Derry and Armagh last year in championship.

Blowitupref

Quote from: Armaghtothebone on May 14, 2023, 10:17:44 PM
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Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on May 14, 2023, 08:38:54 PM

It's a stated opinion. He hasn't delivered in his time in charge. That's a fact .

It's childish attempt for some attention off Armagh supporters than "stated opinion" on how today's keenly contested encounter played out and in the end decided on a penalty shootout.

So you don't think Armagh should have won the game from a winning position? Sound.

No comment either on McGeeney's achievements during his time in charge. Silence tells me all I need to know. Hard truths
You seem obsessed with McGeeny.
What do you think he should have won?
1 Ulster's.  3 Ulster's.  2 Ulster's and a Sam?
What would you have considered success.

While you're at it tell me who should replace him

Seems to have some strange obsession McGeeney alright.  Armagh was penalty shootout win away from reaching the All Ireland semi final last year and winning Ulster today.  Had Derry or Galway lost those two shootouts would the so called stated opinion be they "Completely filled the togs"

Is the ref going to finally blow his whistle?... No, he's going to blow his nose

Throw ball

Quote from: screenexile on May 14, 2023, 10:19:33 PM
What antics were Derry at? The only thing I saw was McGuigan charging after the ball in the middle of getting treatment which wasn't great. Other than that I didn't see anything dirty from us!

Just saw Flynn and Keegan tell us Tyrone are still the team to beat in Ulster anyway so what even is the point of the Ulster championship?

I saw a good bit along with plenty of 'game management'. Sean Hurson tried to bring it to referees attention a few times. Still no use debating at this stage. Maybe Armagh's biggest problem is that they aren't as cute as other teams and many people believe the narrative that that are a team of bodybuilding MMA artists.

BrotherMore6592

Because they've done it again and again, how many false dawns have Armagh had? They're the mayo of ulster

Tyrone for their "flukey" and "the softest ever AI won" still did the business in 2021. Small margins, but that's what separates the great from the very good.

There is a talented Armagh team there with arguably better footballers than Derry today but they need a top manager to bring them to the next level.

gallsman

Quote from: Mourne Red on May 14, 2023, 10:30:30 PM
Quote from: square_ball on May 14, 2023, 10:25:16 PM
Quote from: Orior on May 14, 2023, 10:22:52 PM

Armagh have had three penalty shoot-outs and lost all three. Should we have brought on a specialist keeper at the end?

Would any keeper in Ireland have saved Glass or McFaul's penalties? I don't think so.

Don't think any keeper in GAA or Soccer would have saved them.. 2 cracking pens

Absolutely.

Think a bit off the Armagh reaction is OTT. Disappointing to lose for sure and Derry certainly worthy winners but there was nothing between the teams. McGuigan had probably is best championship appearance and contributed more in play than I've ever seen him. Turbitt was quiet. Play the game next week and it could easily be the other way around.

tonto1888

Quote from: BrotherMore6592 on May 14, 2023, 10:43:24 PM
Because they've done it again and again, how many false dawns have Armagh had? They're the mayo of ulster

Tyrone for their "flukey" and "the softest ever AI won" still did the business in 2021. Small margins, but that's what separates the great from the very good.

There is a talented Armagh team there with arguably better footballers than Derry today but they need a top manager to bring them to the next level.

Your last line is spot on

5times5times

Quote from: 5times5times on May 14, 2023, 07:15:47 PM
Quote from: full moon on May 14, 2023, 07:12:24 PM
Armagh won't get a better chance than that. They're missing something.

A quality manager. Malachy ORourke or Jim McGuinness wouldn't  have allowed armagh  to be 2pts up with 4 to go and lose it. All this defensive nous yet left Morgan on McGuigan all day? Baffling but not surprising by Geezer and co.

Will never get a better chance.

Several hours later, gripe still stands.  Frustrating knowing what armagh could do with a top top manager

thejuice

Enjoyable game. Pressure cooker stuff. Penalties are a harsh way to do things but gets you a result on the day. Thought Armagh had it wrapped up in extra time.
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

grounded

Quote from: Walter Cronc on May 14, 2023, 09:48:43 PM
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Lovely jubbly. Topped off with the wannabe hard man Rian O'Nell missing a pen!

If he'd burst someone's kidney you'd be salivating over him.

That onion bag was for you smicker! Atta boy Ciaran!

Where do you think his best position is for Derry?  He came on at wing half but he usually plays in a more central role for Glen and i think that suits him better, especially when linking up with his clubmate Glass.
         Glass was outstanding today. Lots of talk about Rogers and mcGuigan, but it was Glass who held it together for them in extra time.
           

delgany

A decent game but lacked real intensity, Armagh should have saw the game out. Fine margins between both teams. Unfortunately, for Armagh , Ethan Rafferty is a far better outfield player than he is a GK. ( Goal today was terrible). He has no presence on the line, makes some poor GK decisions. Even in the penalties, he looked small in comparison to Lynch( who is a converted outfield player as well). Harsh but true!

marty34

Quote from: Saffrongael on May 14, 2023, 06:09:45 PM
Quote from: Champion The Wonder Horse on May 14, 2023, 06:05:47 PM
Clear black for Morgan.

Gough has been atrocious

Yeah, how the commentators didn't even mention that was a joke.

Derry player let the ball run around him and Morgan clearly tripped him. Deliberately.

A clear black card.

Wildweasel74

Derry in general were poor today but still won, that's the only big plus from the game, some players were good, some were poor, but Derry still insist on playing the same forwards every game but get zero scoring from them, I can't understand it, I rather Play McWillians when fit, start McFaul( he not up to match sharpness so needs the games, and seems afraid to shoot, same lad got u 2/3pts a game last year) also Need play Downeys lad as well. Happy to win a 2nd Ulster cause I think there no all-Ireland on the table for either team. Derry showed a lack of a bench in extra time. They do need Bradley bck for the remaining games this year, hopefully big Brown from Australia nxt year. Some lads who left the Derry panel, Dougan, Kearney etc, I think should be asked bck nxt Yr if stand out in this yrs championship. Mccullagh of Slaughtneil looks a good player coming too. Gough, gave Derry nothing especially in the first half.