Donegal - A mess

[twohands!!!]

Completely reliable source in Donegal has said the players didn't want Bradley either, but O'Rouke told them he couldn't do it himself and needed him

Be fascinating to see what sort of Donegal team turn up Sunday.

You would think there will be some sort of reaction to everything and they can't be as apathetic as they were against Mayo the last day.

[Gmac]

Was in donegal last week a few times seems like $ is the problem all the way round , county board should ask John Mcilhenny  for a few quid with the price of his suits he's selling.

[rrhf]

Was in donegal last week a few times seems like $ is the problem all the way round , county board should ask John Mcilhenny  for a few quid with the price of his suits he's selling.

We have the solution right here...

[trileacman]

Feel bad for Paddy Carr, have heard he's an absolute gentleman. Don't know why anyone would entertain having Aidan o rourke around the camp.

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Donegal players appear to have thrown Paddy Carr under the bus. Failing to take responsibility for their own shitness.

Only one management ticket to save them, Cassidy, McGuinness, McEniff and McHugh.... no not James or Martin but...... Bernard McHugh.

[bannside]

It's all about the money. And there's plenty of it in Donegal.

Did players want rid of Carr but were OK with O Rourke and Bradley? Or were they looking rid of whole lot. Wondering if there was a split in management camp....three a bad number!  You have to think this is teed up for some kind of Murphy, Lacey involvement. Saw this coming a country mile away....be surprised if I'm wrong.

[seafoid]

I can fully empathise with what's happening in Donegal, feels a bit like Derry's freefall to Div 4 a few  years ago when everything was wrong from CB down.

No idea what the answer is, but it could be years before Donegal return as a force with these kinds of problems. Look at the teams in Div2 next year, Donegal, probably Monaghan, Cork, Louth, Meath, Kildare, Cavan and probably Fermanagh.
If Donegal don't get their act together you could see relegation to Div 3.

Only if they are as bad as Down last year. Fermanagh, Kildare and Meath should be 6 points. Donegal wouldn't fear Cavan either

[Captain Obvious]

Jimmy McGuinness complained last week that he offered his services but was ignored. He now needs to put his money where his mouth is and step up at a time of crisis.

If he offered his services to manage Donegal then it begs the question what exactly have the last 8 years or so been all about for him. He went down the painstaking route of serving an apprenticeship as a soccer coach in order to get his pro licence but yet has now seemingly walked away from the sport. You would imagine that a League of Ireland club at least would have taken a punt on him by this stage or is that dream now over for him.

He didn't though. He offered to mentor Kav and Lacey as he and his family are about and will be until the summer. He was never coming in to manage with soccer commitments.. That's both in print and podcast

Incorrect. Listen to the podcast. He said he offered to help Kavanagh and Lacey and then when they turned it down he never heard from the county board again - which was at the core of his grievance ie: He was willing to help the man who go it, no matter who got it. Whether it's true or not, it's what he said last week.
If he was willing then, then why not step forward now when they need him, or was last week just a grenade to stir up more trouble.
Kevin Cassidy has called him out on it on social media too.

Over a decade this feud has been going on, it's about time that Kevin Cassidy and Jim McGuinness kissed and made up.  The likelihood that the Donegal county board brought Jim McGuinness in now after he was critical of them in public is probably slim. 

[Captain Obvious]

I can fully empathise with what's happening in Donegal, feels a bit like Derry's freefall to Div 4 a few  years ago when everything was wrong from CB down.

No idea what the answer is, but it could be years before Donegal return as a force with these kinds of problems. Look at the teams in Div2 next year, Donegal, probably Monaghan, Cork, Louth, Meath, Kildare, Cavan and probably Fermanagh.
If Donegal don't get their act together you could see relegation to Div 3.

I think the issue with Derry was getting players to commit to the inter county team as club football was a strong focus for many and playing for the inter county team an inconvenience. Rory Gallagher in fairness to him has changed the culture and players give the same commitment to club and county teams now.

[Gael85]

https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/03/22/news/sean_cavanagh_doesn_t_know_what_he_is_talking_about_says_brendan_devenney-3156158/

[Blowitupref]

No slight on the man but can anyone tell me what Paddy Carr's managerial CV looks like in the last 10years. Has he not more or less been out of the game?

His full CV was posted on DonegalGAA.ie when appointed

in the 1990's he managed the Meath Minor team as well as the Under 16 team for four years;

in 1998 he managed Mattock Rangers in Co Louth to a county title;

from 2001 to 2003 Paddy managed the Louth Senior Football Team;

in 2004 he managed Summerhill, Meath to a Division 1 Title;

in 2006/2007 Paddy was a Selector with the Leinster Railway Cup winning side;

from 2005 to 2008 he was Director of Football with Tir Chonaill Gaels in London winning 3 consecutive Senior Championships;

from 2008 to 2011 Paddy managed Kilmacud Crokes to two Division 1 League titles, 2 Dublin Senior Championship titles, 2 Leinster Club titles and the All Ireland Club Championship title in 2009;

in 2012 Paddy returned to London and managed Tir Chonaill Gaels to a London Senior title;

in 2013 and 2014 he managed Burren in Co.Down to two Senior Championship Finals;

in 2015 he managed St Brigid`s in Roscommon to Division 1 League title.

in 2016 and 2017 Paddy managed Ballymun Kickhams to the Dublin Senior Final.

[The Trap]

Will put this on this thread.
Donegal knew for a while that Declan Bonner was going to step away but didn't have a succession plan.
This will probably be Logan/Dooher last year, maybe McGeeny......where do those counties turn next? There are not too many candidates

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https://www.irishnews.com/sport/gaafootball/2023/03/22/news/sean_cavanagh_doesn_t_know_what_he_is_talking_about_says_brendan_devenney-3156158/

Cavanagh looks like he knows more than Devenney. If you think the fortunes of the senior team and how the management appointments were handled and the mess that is the academy are totally separate then Donegal are in an even worse place than people think.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/2023/03/23/donegal-gaa-have-questions-to-answer-after-a-disastrous-few-months/Earlier in the week McEniff had called for the appointment of Jim McGuinness as acting senior manager after the resignation of Paddy Carr but it is believed in the county that McGuinness, who had been on board with Rory Kavanagh's proposed management ticket, which included Lacey, is unlikely to commit to taking over given his continuing pursuit of a soccer coaching career.

[seafoid]

It all depends how long it takes to get the situation under control. Donegal don't have to fall as far as Down did to turn things around. Down are playing Tailteann this year. Donegal aren't.