Ulster Club IFC/JFC 2023

[tonto1888]

Hear there's a bit of a push for seconds teams from more of the bigger clubs in Armagh so Junior championship could get a bit of a revitalising

I personally don't like this as I think they should compete in the reserve championship. Let the smaller clubs compete for the junior championship.
You'll never convince me that winning the junior championship would mean as much to Cross or Clann Eireann as it would to Corrinshego or O'Hanlon's.

No problem with seconds teams competing in the all county league set up however.

speak to some of the guys who won it and see what they think

[ranch]

Hear there's a bit of a push for seconds teams from more of the bigger clubs in Armagh so Junior championship could get a bit of a revitalising

I personally don't like this as I think they should compete in the reserve championship. Let the smaller clubs compete for the junior championship.
You'll never convince me that winning the junior championship would mean as much to Cross or Clann Eireann as it would to Corrinshego or O'Hanlon's.

No problem with seconds teams competing in the all county league set up however.

speak to some of the guys who won it and see what they think

Why would I need to? I know quite a few lads who have won Junior championships over the years.

Of course lads are delighted to win it. It has nothing to do with my point. I've named the clubs, not individuals. If you think it would mean as much to Clann Eireann to win the Junior this year as it would to Corrinshego or Clady then that's fair enough, but there's no way as far as I'm concerned. Nothing against CE who won it fair and square in 2023 by the way, it's not their fault the rules are as they are.

I wouldn't deny the lads championship football either. But, it would be the reserve championship along with Cross II and killeavy II, and other reserve sides, not Junior football against junior level clubs who are aiming to win a championship at their appropriate level and hoping to represent the county at provincial level.

[DownFanatic]

Ulster IFC

5/11/23 - Preliminary Round

Teemore (Fermanagh) 0-04 v Liatroim (Down) 3-06

12/11/23 - Quarter Finals

Glenullin (Derry) 3-13 v Glenravel (Antrim) 0-07

Ballyhaise (Cavan) 4-15 v Downings (Donegal) 0-11

Pomeroy (Tyrone) 0-10 v Cullyhanna (Armagh) 0-11

Killanny (Monaghan) 0-07 v Liatroim (Down) 0-09

Semi Finals

Glenullin 1-13 v Ballyhaise 1-14
Cullyhanna 0-17 v Liatroim 0-06

Final

Ballyhaise v Cullyhanna


Ulster JFC

29/10/23 - Preliminary Round

Ballyhegan (Armagh) 1-06 v Fintona (Tyrone) 1-16

5/11/23 - Quarter Finals

Ballymaguigan (Derry) 0-08 v Arva (Cavan) 2-17

Na Rossa (Donegal) 2-05 v Lisnaskea (Fermanagh) 1-09

Blackhill (Monaghan) 5-11 v Rasharkin (Antim) 1-07

Fintona (Tyrone) 0-11 v Drumaness (Down) 0-07

Semi Finals

Arva 1-11 v Lisnaskea 0-04
Blackhill 2-10 v Fintona 0-07

Final

Arva v Blackhill

[Dreadnought]

Did I hear that after this year and what happened with Cullyhanna, that Armagh are looking to unlink League and Championship from next year?

[general_lee]

Did I hear that after this year and what happened with Cullyhanna, that Armagh are looking to unlink League and Championship from next year?

Correct, talk is Armagh county board  are going to instruct clubs to treat the league like a joke and use this as cover for shoehorning a few of our Division 1 clubs into the Junior championship.

[full moon]

Did I hear that after this year and what happened with Cullyhanna, that Armagh are looking to unlink League and Championship from next year?

Correct, talk is Armagh county board  are going to instruct clubs to treat the league like a joke and use this as cover for shoehorning a few of our Division 1 clubs into the Junior championship.

Cullyhanna are 1/4 to win this Intermediate final, even their manager is stating they are a senior club in interviews and how unfair it was on other Armagh intermediate.

Yet you're on crying about tiny clubs in Cavan to deflect. It's pathetic.

[5times5times]

Did I hear that after this year and what happened with Cullyhanna, that Armagh are looking to unlink League and Championship from next year?

Correct, talk is Armagh county board  are going to instruct clubs to treat the league like a joke and use this as cover for shoehorning a few of our Division 1 clubs into the Junior championship.

Cullyhanna are 1/4 to win this Intermediate final, even their manager is stating they are a senior club in interviews and how unfair it was on other Armagh intermediate.

Yet you're on crying about tiny clubs in Cavan to deflect. It's pathetic.

Is the difference here not the fact that Cullyhanna did go down the league tables, due to missing a rake of players? And this year, lots of ex-players returned, and the form of the county lads?

[general_lee]

Did I hear that after this year and what happened with Cullyhanna, that Armagh are looking to unlink League and Championship from next year?

Correct, talk is Armagh county board  are going to instruct clubs to treat the league like a joke and use this as cover for shoehorning a few of our Division 1 clubs into the Junior championship.

Cullyhanna are 1/4 to win this Intermediate final, even their manager is stating they are a senior club in interviews and how unfair it was on other Armagh intermediate.

Yet you're on crying about tiny clubs in Cavan to deflect. It's pathetic.

Aye because Cullyhanna, the great metropolis that it is with its 300 odd inhabitants and their 2 years without a home win were incorrectly allocated Intermediate status by those sneaky Armagh f**kers; what with their fancy relegation and insisting teams finishing 2nd bottom out of 16 senior clubs play the grade below the following year. The audacity!

[Armagh18]

Did I hear that after this year and what happened with Cullyhanna, that Armagh are looking to unlink League and Championship from next year?

Correct, talk is Armagh county board  are going to instruct clubs to treat the league like a joke and use this as cover for shoehorning a few of our Division 1 clubs into the Junior championship.

Cullyhanna are 1/4 to win this Intermediate final, even their manager is stating they are a senior club in interviews and how unfair it was on other Armagh intermediate.

Yet you're on crying about tiny clubs in Cavan to deflect. It's pathetic.

Is the difference here not the fact that Cullyhanna did go down the league tables, due to missing a rake of players? And this year, lots of ex-players returned, and the form of the county lads?

Absolutely. Even if league and championship weren't linked they'd have likely been relegated via championship anyway.

[tonto1888]

Did I hear that after this year and what happened with Cullyhanna, that Armagh are looking to unlink League and Championship from next year?

Correct, talk is Armagh county board  are going to instruct clubs to treat the league like a joke and use this as cover for shoehorning a few of our Division 1 clubs into the Junior championship.

Cullyhanna are 1/4 to win this Intermediate final, even their manager is stating they are a senior club in interviews and how unfair it was on other Armagh intermediate.

Yet you're on crying about tiny clubs in Cavan to deflect. It's pathetic.

Is the difference here not the fact that Cullyhanna did go down the league tables, due to missing a rake of players? And this year, lots of ex-players returned, and the form of the county lads?

yup. A division 3 team playing intermediate championship. The terribleness of it all. Cullyhanna suffered two relegations in the not too distant past to go from 1a to 2a.

[intheknowhow]

Arva 2-1 to 0-0 ahead against an actual junior team, Wandsworth Gaels after 15 mins

[clarshack]

Yep Division 1 Arva off to a flyer in the Twinning Final/AI 1/4 Final.

[intheknowhow]

Yep Division 1 Arva off to a flyer in the Twinning Final/AI 1/4 Final.

Remember it dosnt matter what league you play in Cavan... teams don't take it seriously!

Playing Div 1 football has seriously benefited Arva.

To say it dosnt matter is pulling the wool over their eyes

[Westside]

Good win for Arva in atrocious conditions. Nice break now until after Christmas and a chance for some injuries to clear up.

[clarshack]

Good win for Arva in atrocious conditions. Nice break now until after Christmas and a chance for some injuries to clear up.

Division 1 Arva will now play Division 4 Milltown (Kildare) in the All-Ireland Semi Final.
Listowel won the Munster Junior today so maybe they should just skip the semis and play the final before Christmas and be done with this farce.