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Cancel the whole dam thing. I just want my money back.

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The whole taste has gone off the event now, too much negativity surrounding the gigs.  I reckon there won't be as big a rush the next time tickets go on sale for Garth Brooks.  The few people I've talked to who have tickets are all of the same opinion, feck Garth, Aiken and the whole shower of them, not pushed if they see him now or not.

Totally agree with this. f**k them. Have tickets myself but I'll hardly bother going now.

Its nice to see some Garth fans with a bit of principle.

Easy to make fools of here in Ireland it would seem. Artist & promoter taking the complete hand out of accountable public institutions knowing full well that arseh0le political leaders wh0ring for votes will come to the rescue and save the day. Fully expect Brooks to arrive and be treated like a true hero and saviour to those who can't get enough of the 20 years dormant & uncreative global star

Lol such a load of crap. Business men take steps to make sure profitable deal goes through. Shock horror!! Hope it goes through just to annoy the music snobs who are at pains to show how cool they are.

Jesus Moysider - what do you do? Minister for Justice, by any chance?

FFS the MoJ would and did get away with worse!!

[a full scale row]

What has been the reaction, if any, from the other main political parties or church leaders to McConnell and Robinson?

Dyou mean parties in the 6?

There was a full scale row in the executive chambers yesterday when MMcG brought the topic up.

Another sham fight. They all had supper that evening together.

Bang on the money. Another fake row to pretend that they give a shit about Muslims .

So your giving out about them doing something by calling it a sham on one hand, while giving out about them not making a statement on the other. No doubt you would have complained about it being a sham if they had given a statement. So SF couldn't win in your eyes. Which is fine you are entitled to that opinion. But give over on the dragging of multiple threads into SF bashing. You've shown an agenda on here and it's getting boring.
The fact that u highlight SF'S lack of statement but don't question the others shows your clear bias.

If they are the best person on the team at executing that skill, then its irrelevant what position they play.

It does if they take all day to take the free.

As has been pointed out you chatting a max of about 15-20 seconds extra. You'd need to be a right humpy b@astard to be giving out about that. But some people are only happy if they're complaining. Instead of enjoying the kicking you are trying really hard to find a fault.

Well i must be a grumpy bastxxd  , it really bloody annoys me FULL STOP, the quick free in to a corner forward, for him to tap the ball over is all but gone Pity

You'd prefer a tap over to a 45 of the ground? Each to their own I suppose.

Because GHD wants the opportunity to mentioned Peter King again.

I'm sure you would have cut and paste it here if they had......

GHD you don't like SF. We get it.

Now please give the f**k over.

Maybe now that idiot Kenny will desist from taunting Adams about the Troubles every time the latter puts a question to him in the Dáil. If only he'd been half as interested in the Troubles at the actual time.

I doubt it. It's one of the reasons why Sinn Fein have to decide is the time right to hand over to the hungry newcomers, or stick with the lads that have got this far. The Troubles will ALWAYS be on the agenda when Gerry Adams is stuck in any debate. It's just a very easy target for the likes of Martin, Kenny and whichever lucky devil leads Labour.

It's a very easy target, but at this stage who's reputation is it damaging more? I would say Kenny as it makes him look out of his depth in the debate. His snide comments about the troubles do not do him any favours at all in my opinion.

All senior and reserve players to wear gumshields in league and champ starting this weekend?cumpolsary? As if the refs haven't enough to worry about

Has that not been in since the start of the year?

McGinn should not have got a black card because it should not even have been a penalty.

Donnelly had already taken 7 steps when McGinn rugby tackled him. Coldrick let players run 7-8 steps all day. If we have a rule then it should be used. Ok, maybe a fifth step if the player is under pressure and seriously trying to get rid of the ball is a fair relaxation. But by the time you are at 7 you have definitely fouled the ball.

Having said that once Coldrick had deemed that he didn't have to implement one of the long established rules in the rulebook, sure why should he then bother to comply with the rule on advantage play (does he actually know how long 5 seconds is???), nor why bother with black cards "Deliberately pull down an opponent"

Look the above comments are meant more in whimsy than to be taken seriously. The real point I am making is that there is little merit in commenting on Coldrick's refereeing of an individual incident when his refereeing in general was so poorly lacking technically all day. I accept referees make mistakes because they can't see everything but they should at least be technically correct. And he is meant to be the best in the country!!!

Do you seriously think Mark Donnelly took 7 steps before he was fouled? You do realise he didn't catch the ball clean? From the moment he had the ball in his hands until he was fouled he took 2 steps - you could maybe argue for 3. That YouTube video someone posted is as clear as day

There wasn't any over carrying for that incident but Pauld123 is right that it was let go multiple times during the game. Really irriates me. You used to get 5 steps at a push, now you get 7 most times.

You'd have to laugh at some of the posters on here. Had it been the other way about you would have heard about how cynical Tyrone were with the "of the ball" dragging and holding and that it served them right to conceed the free. 

How Sean Cavanagh got the last free still hasn't been shown on RTE
Amazing, considering Tyrone players were falling to the ground all game 'engineering' frees

It was shown a couple of times. And it was a stone wall free. Care to list the Tyrone Dives that were going on all game? The only clear one that I saw was McBride (How the ref gave it I don't know!!) 

[a claim that is been investigated by the police Ombusman, doesn't it strike you as odd that he didn't go after the Irish News, The Sunday Life, or the Telegraph when they printed claims by Dolours Price that he was involved in the execution of Jean McConville and others, claiming he couldn't afford the costs to prove those claims were false?]

Dixie, no harm you keep quoting the Dolours Price allegations as if they're proof of Gerry being involved. Had it been the other way about you would be clamering for evidence. You can't have it both ways.

The point I am making is simple.

Woman says Gerry was involved in murders. Gerry says he can't afford to go to court.

Woman says Gerry spoke to a policeman. Gerry hires in the worlds top libel lawyer.

And my point is that your point is nonsense. AQMP has already explained why.

I'll ask a simple question, Do you believe every allegation you hear about anyone if that person doesn't challenge it in Court?

No I don't believe any allegation that I hear about anyone, but usually, as a general rule of thumb, if I read allegations of a high profile person been involved in murders in reputable newspapers, then I want to see what becomes of it. Wouldn't you have the same curiosity?

Also, as a general rule of thumb, I have generally found that anyone accused of a serious crime in a reputable newspaper usually challenges the newspaper or the person making those claims in a legal manner.

2 weeks RTE had to apologise to Gerry Adams in relation to a complaint he made as in relation to a failure on their behalf to use the word "allegedly" in a news report relating to the DPP seeking a review of a decision not to prosecute Gerry for withholding evidence about his brother, Liam.

This was their apology:

On the 7th of October, Drivetime broadcast an inaccurate report which was repeated on a number of news bulletins during the programme in relation to Mr Gerry Adams TD.

This report incorrectly stated that the Northern Ireland Director of Public Prosecutions had asked for a review of the decision not to prosecute the Sinn Féin leader Gerry Adams for withholding evidence about his brother.

The reports should have stated that the Northern Ireland Director of Public Prosecutions had asked for a review of the decision not to prosecute the Sinn Féin leader for allegedly withholding evidence about his brother.

RTE apologises to Gerry Adams for this error.

Now, i'm sure you have read the full transcript of Gerry's cross examination......

Then, this week Gerry hires the worlds leading libel lawyer to go after the Independent Newspaper group because they reported on the Police Ombusman investigating a claim by his sister in law, Liams wife, that Gerry was briefed in a public meeting by a policeman on Liams case prior to him giving evidence against his brother.

Now, considering the above examples of how Gerry went after RTE because they left out the word "alledged" in an article, and had to issue a public apology, and how he has hired the worlds leading libel lawyer to challenge the claim printed in 2 major newspapers by his sister in law that he was de briefed by a police man on his brothers rape trial, a claim that is been investigated by the police Ombusman, doesn't it strike you as odd that he didn't go after the Irish News, The Sunday Life, or the Telegraph when they printed claims by Dolours Price that he was involved in the execution of Jean McConville and others, claiming he couldn't afford the costs to prove those claims were false?
After all, he got RTE to apologise for leaving out the word "Allegedly" in their report, and if you were to have read Gerrys testimony in the link I posted earlier, you can understand how RTE made the simple error.

If they used the word alledged regarding Dolours alledgations he would have had no legal grounds to challenge them. You're logic is backwards. You are using the fact that he didn't challenge alledgations as proof that they are true. Totally twisted logic and if you can't see that then we'll agree to differ.

Ya'd have to laugh at some of the selective viewing some of the posters on here had of the game. Firstly anyone who things it wasn't a free at the end after watching the replays is deluded. The foul was going on for about 3-4 seconds before the free was actually given. It's fecking clear on the replays. While I'll completely admit Cavanagh goes down easy for frees, he was out in front of his man and as it was of the ball he wouldn't have had a clue where the ref was looking. It would have been a huge risk to take a dive especially as he was out in front and odds on to win the ball anyway.
As for the rest of the game. The first half was a tame affair by championship standards. Tyrone huffed and puffed and gave fleeting glimpses of potential. But the quality of football in general was terrible. Conditions weren't great, but I've seen club players handle worse conditions better. Still too much carrying of the ball into the tackle. I know playing against a packed defence means it can be hard to hit the ball into space, but carrying it repeatedly into tackles isn't the answer either. You just get swallowed up.
Changing of the game was the black card of Morgan. As has been mentioned, Tyrone lost all possesion when O'Neill came on. You'd feel sorry on him that he didn't get more time during the League and McKenna cup as he looked slightly lost. But Tyrone's midfield seemed to lose they're legs at this stage aswell which wouldn't have made it easy to pick out midfielders.  The black card was the correct decision. Some calling for a red, possibly but think it would have been very harsh. For Tyrone's penalty, I think the ref had blown the whistle before Donnelly had got the kick away. So once it's blown he can't give advantage. And to be fair I didn't think Donnelly was going to get the kick away either so I wouldn't chastise him too much for not playing the advantage there. But he was definitely at fault for not giving the black card. It was a text book black card. And should have been a very easy call for the ref as he had a clear view. So I'm sure he'll get a slap on the wrist for that. And rightly so.
The second half was certainly more entertaining and the attacking play was better. But some of the defending was shambolic. Tyrone definitely need personell changes in there. Hopefully Justy and Conor can get a bit of fitness back and get in contention for a starting slot.
Another bug bear that came from the game yesterday is the lack of regulation on steps by refs this year. There was numerous times yesterday for both teams when they over ran the ball without punishment. It seems to have gotten looser this year than any other year. And this as well as the black card have tipped the advantage too much in favour of the attacker.
But fair play to Cavanagh for the free at the end. Huge kick under pressure.

We go again.

Ye could be out of that Ulster Cauldron sooner than ye think and away down the country for yer next match.

Such arrogance.