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Fuckin hell, Ulster football is dead againI'd hold no great candle for either of these teams but I still think they're both potential semi-final teams. Hard game to watch though.
I'm really curious what you've seen from either side to have that sort of faith. This is very mediocre fare
I disagree on the red card there. Well won by the Tyrone man. Clever play.
Even in the summer, that pitch looks in poor shape
I seen now in this game and the Ulster final where a defender pulls the ball out of the forwards hands, is that suddenly not a foul anymore, both were so obvious.
https://twitter.com/officialgaa/status/166501492365342310548 mins played a penalty goal for Kerry, the foul looked outside the area. 1-10 to 0-10 and Cork down to 14 men with a black card.
That ref just can't help himself -- needs to be a talking point.
It can be outside the box and a penalty though did they not say? If it’s a clear goalscoring opportunity, which I’m not sure it was
Definitely wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity.
There's nothing in the rules about it having to be a clear goal scoring opportunity.
I don't think anyone can make the case that there wasn't a chance of a goal in this situation given the lack of Cork's cover and the fact that Geaney has scored a number of goals against Cork over the years.
Gough got this spot on imo.
Kerry fairly unimpressive bar Clifford (really can't see an All-Ireland in them) and Cork while they got close on the scoreline are still miles off being a top team.Quote5.41 Notwithstanding provisions of existing Playing Rules 2.2 Exception (i), 5 and specifically 5.40, if one of the following infractions-
(a) To deliberately pull down an opponent (5.10) or
(b) To deliberately trip an opponent with hand (s),arm, leg, or foot, (5.11) or
(c) To deliberately collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of the movement of play (5.12) is committed on an attacking player who or, in the case of a Rule 5.12 (Football) Infraction, his team, is denied of a goal-scoring opportunity, as defined in Important Terms and Definitions 9, the following penalties shall apply:
(i) A Penalty Kick shall be awarded to the team affected.
(ii) The offender shall be issued with a Black Card and be sent to the Sin Bin for 10 minutes.Quote9. GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY (Denial of)
In the context of Temporary Rules 5.45 (Hurling)/5.41 (Football)
A situation requiring each of the following criteria:
(i) The attacking player fouled, as specified in these Temporary Rules, shall be in possession of the ball, except in the case of Rule 5.12 (Football).
Possession shall include a player being in control of the ball as specified in any one or more Rule 1-The Play sub-sections 1.3,1.4,1.7
(Hurling); 1.4,1.5 (Football).
(ii) The location of the infraction shall be either:
(a) Inside the 20-metre line, but as a ‘rule of thumb’ not within 25 metres infield of each sideline or
(b) Within the semi-circular Arc.
(iii) In the opinion of the Referee, the player fouled or, in the case of a Rule 5.12 Infraction, his team, had and was denied of the opportunity to score a goal when the infraction was committed.
remains debatable for me. Either way that score was difference between the teams. Good improvement by Cork compared to their last two championship games against Kerry but Kerry lacking the organisation and hunger they had last year.
48 mins played a penalty goal for Kerry, the foul looked outside the area. 1-10 to 0-10 and Cork down to 14 men with a black card.
That ref just can't help himself -- needs to be a talking point.
It can be outside the box and a penalty though did they not say? If it’s a clear goalscoring opportunity, which I’m not sure it was
Definitely wasn't a clear goal scoring opportunity.
5.41 Notwithstanding provisions of existing Playing Rules 2.2 Exception (i), 5 and specifically 5.40, if one of the following infractions-
(a) To deliberately pull down an opponent (5.10) or
(b) To deliberately trip an opponent with hand (s),arm, leg, or foot, (5.11) or
(c) To deliberately collide with an opponent after he has played the ball away or for the purpose of taking him out of the movement of play (5.12) is committed on an attacking player who or, in the case of a Rule 5.12 (Football) Infraction, his team, is denied of a goal-scoring opportunity, as defined in Important Terms and Definitions 9, the following penalties shall apply:
(i) A Penalty Kick shall be awarded to the team affected.
(ii) The offender shall be issued with a Black Card and be sent to the Sin Bin for 10 minutes.
9. GOAL-SCORING OPPORTUNITY (Denial of)
In the context of Temporary Rules 5.45 (Hurling)/5.41 (Football)
A situation requiring each of the following criteria:
(i) The attacking player fouled, as specified in these Temporary Rules, shall be in possession of the ball, except in the case of Rule 5.12 (Football).
Possession shall include a player being in control of the ball as specified in any one or more Rule 1-The Play sub-sections 1.3,1.4,1.7
(Hurling); 1.4,1.5 (Football).
(ii) The location of the infraction shall be either:
(a) Inside the 20-metre line, but as a ‘rule of thumb’ not within 25 metres infield of each sideline or
(b) Within the semi-circular Arc.
(iii) In the opinion of the Referee, the player fouled or, in the case of a Rule 5.12 Infraction, his team, had and was denied of the opportunity to score a goal when the infraction was committed.
Half time Kildare 0-8 Dublin 0-13
Entirely open draw this year while looking to avoid repeat match ups is my understanding, the predetermined provincial pairings of Ulster/Connacht and Munster/Leinster like last year are gone.If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.Is the semi final draw made?
So let's say you had Roscommon, Mayo, Dublin and Kerry in the semi finals this year, only possible combo for the semi finals are Kerry-Ros and Mayo-Dublin as Mayo have already played Roscommon and Kerry and Dublin have played Roscommon already as well, there's no need for a draw.
Swap Galway out for Rossies in that scenario and it would be a draw with Kerry-Mayo the only fixture that couldn't happen.
Derry, Dublin, Mayo and Galway would be open draw with any pairing valid.
Again that's my understanding, have seen contradictory information as well but that was from a GAA clarification given to the Irish Examiner.
That's what in the rule book for the semi-final
My understanding for the Q/Finals is that all group winners in one hat, remaining four in other.
you cannot play a team from your own group in the Q/finals. i.e. Mayo if the win their group, cannot be drawn to play Kerry in Q/finals if they are one of the four non group winners.
Semi-final is an open draw, that is correct.
Entirely open draw this year while looking to avoid repeat match ups is my understanding, the predetermined provincial pairings of Ulster/Connacht and Munster/Leinster like last year are gone.If Kerry can get back to their best then that's a decent shout as it would take a really strange set of permutations for Mayo and Kerry to have to play each other again before the AI final.Is the semi final draw made?
So let's say you had Roscommon, Mayo, Dublin and Kerry in the semi finals this year, only possible combo for the semi finals are Kerry-Ros and Mayo-Dublin as Mayo have already played Roscommon and Kerry and Dublin have played Roscommon already as well, there's no need for a draw.
Swap Galway out for Rossies in that scenario and it would be a draw with Kerry-Mayo the only fixture that couldn't happen.
Derry, Dublin, Mayo and Galway would be open draw with any pairing valid.
Again that's my understanding, have seen contradictory information as well but that was from a GAA clarification given to the Irish Examiner.
I have seen Derry being penalised this year because the derry player entered the D to pick up the ball . It resultrd in a throw up.
I believe this is the correct interpretation of the rule.
if its a derry kick out, then yes.
The ball must travel 13metres before being touched by a player on the same team.
It doesn't have to travel 13 metres before being touched by an opponent, as long as the opponent was more than 13 metres away (i.e. outside the D for a kickout) when the ball was kicked.
If the goalkeeper is not taking the kick-out, he shall stay in the small rectangle, and all other players, except the player taking the kick-out, shall be outside the 20m line, outside the semicircular arc and 13m from the ball until it has been kicked.
The ball shall travel not less than 13m and outside the 20m line before being played by another player of the defending team.
Why is pulling the ball from a player's hand not allowed?
Would it not at least tip the balance back towards defenders against ball carriers who seemingly can do what they like.
I don't see tackling the ball with fist specifically banned in the T .O.?
You are playing the man not the ball..
You can't tackle with a closed fist, yes clean contact on the ball is fine, its a yellow card if connecting with the player
Making contact with the ball with a closed fist is tackling with a closed fist.
All about interpretation too, if that is a clean take of the ball and no contact on the man did he foul him?
So you can tackle with a closed fist?
All I'm saying is if you tackle the ball cleanly, me personally I won't be blowing for it, if the ball is the only thing that is hit. It's a interpretation of that action
Put a keeper off in sin bin lately. The opposition where giving off that the player who went into nets had to be wearing a keepers top!! This based on Tyrone game on TV the week before..
I explained that they didn't have to wear a keepers top, wearing the keepers top only gives the 'keeper' the rights of a keeper, nothing else. these people giving off are senior div 1 managers
Our seniors were playing 2 different lads in nets at different stages, neither were keepers. One made a run out and the other hung back in one game, possession lost and the one with the outfield jersey on that day tried to take the kick out but the ref didn't allow him to kick it because the other man had the keepers jersey on at half forward. Do you agree with that one?
I can see the keeper jersey going soon if the game keeps going like it is now, no advantage in it. If you like saving shots you may go to the soccer.
Is the main “right” the keepers jersey give is to touch ball on ground in small square? Kickouts not an issue, anyone can take. I did see a game where an out field player took the kick out, ran on and received the ball back from the receiver. Ref blew for it, rightly, and the teams manager went mad shouting “he isn’t the keeper” but ref said he took kick and can’t receive it back, but the keeper could have as he didn’t take kick.
A player in direct receipt of a kick-out may not pass the ball to his team’s goalkeeper without another player playing the ball.
I move O:Shea to cornerforeard, he's a good scorer but been bad a few yrs now.
A very good free taker. Beyond that doesn’t offer much more at the minute.
This satire ?
