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We're going to have to stop soon if teams like Dungannon win the ulster intermediate though

I'm only joking btw. I would agree I see a lot of improvement in teams like Carryduff and Bredagh too. It's kind of a mini ulster league.

[How do other migrants get through with lorries?]

Yeah Itchy the media wording is "interesting". It's not even an us or themmun - it's that he's not British straight away he's Irish. Typical of the british media.

So from what I read here they were going to die either by freezing or by suffocation if the fridge wasn't on Is that accurate? Gees it's sounding almost like genocide more than anything here.

Under what scenarios would they have survived??

How do other migrants get through with lorries?

It said on the news yesterday that this was potentially one of a convoy of three lorries - no sign of the other two unless some of the boys arrested were driving these

Curtainsiders wouldn't be hermetically sealed, although they still wouldn't be the most comfortable. At least in a pinch you could take out a knife and slash the curtain. In a fridge you've got no chance, it's like being locked in a bank vault.

I can't see it being quite as simple as that. Those involved know lorries, trailers & containers as well as or better than anyone. They expected to get them through alive in this container & probably have done before. There has been a mistake made or an accident happened that they didn't foresee I reckon.

Yeah I would agree. Noises point to outright murder but it just has to have been a mistake or an oversight to have gone this far. You would also wonder how many times these people have done it before too and if they did what they did differently.

Yeah that is what I was wondering. It sounds like these people had no chance but surely there are people get through. They would presumably do things differently?

Yeah I see your point. It is hard to see how these people could have survived through any scenario here with anything other than sheer luck though.

Yeah Itchy the media wording is "interesting". It's not even an us or themmun - it's that he's not British straight away he's Irish. Typical of the british media.

So from what I read here they were going to die either by freezing or by suffocation if the fridge wasn't on Is that accurate? Gees it's sounding almost like genocide more than anything here.

Under what scenarios would they have survived??

How many football teams are there in Derry? There are only 8 hurling teams? I guess I never thought about it but seems very low. St Pats Maghera have had some cracking teams over the years - must be some drop off rate.

NaMagha have been going in antrim for years so fair play to them.

Agreed. It's pretty poor.

Dublin marathon has moved to a lottery system for next year

Going by an Irish Times article the trailer was booked on as having a load of biscuits and the fridge wasn't running.
Therefore the trailer was a sealed unit and no oxygen was getting in and they would have suffocated

Jesus that is horrendous if that is the case. It should be murder on someone and not manslaughter.

Yeah that was why I was confused as to what he was wearing as he is sponsored by under armour.

Yeah, if you're round that pace you must be flying anyway but every little helps.

I do wonder was Clohissey wearing them too. If not he might be annoyed.

I don't know him but know plenty that do. He's a guy with phenomenal talent but a guy that just can't get his "head right". He would tell you that himself and realises that is his problem. I don't know if he's unpopular as such - just viewed more as a loose cannon lol.

He has great talent though and this is really only the first time we have seen it (well aside from London the other year).

I was trying to work out what shoes he was wearing yesterday. I think I read he was wearing the Nike 4% shoes.(I assume they are vaporflys?)

Everyone playing their cards close to their chest

Some run by Stephen Scullion for 2nd. Former doper in first too.

How did folks get on?

That doesn't mean the best athletes play/choose GAA over other sports.

Some of those rugby boys I'd love to have seen play GAA at the top level. O'Driscoll / Kearney in particular.

Do the best athletes play GAA sports?

They are split between aussie rules, soccer, GAA and rugby. There's nothing to say the better ones play GAA. It's not like th GAA ones who went to soccer are bad.