Is it 's or s'?

[theticklemister]

So when writing about a club is it 's or s'?

For example, it is Padraig Pearse's GAC. When you put it in writing however, would it be.........

Padraig Pearse's Donaghy scored a point

or

Padraig Pearses' Donaghy scored a point


Let the debate commence!

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

'Padraig Pearse' is a single club, so it's Padraig Pearse's.

If two clubs called 'Padraig Pearse' were associated with something or other, then it would be Padraig Pearses'.

No debate. 

[moysider]

The name of club is Padraig Pearses not Padraig Pearse so it would be Padraig Pearses' top scorer or whatever.

Same with Mitchels, Sarsfields, Austin Stacks, Stephenites etc. No debate!!

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

The name of club is Padraig Pearses not Padraig Pearse so it would be Padraig Pearses' top scorer or whatever.

Same with Mitchels, Sarsfields, Austin Stacks, Stephenites etc. No debate!!

No, it's fecking not, can't you read? It's Padraig Pearse's GAC, so anything else associated with that club will either be:

a) Padraig Pearse's GAC's player x, player y, etc.
or
b) Padraig Pearse's player x, player y, etc.

Unless you want to speak mangled Mayo muck! 

[moysider]

The name of club is Padraig Pearses not Padraig Pearse so it would be Padraig Pearses' top scorer or whatever.

Same with Mitchels, Sarsfields, Austin Stacks, Stephenites etc. No debate!!

No, it's fecking not, can't you read? It's Padraig Pearse's GAC, so anything else associated with that club will either be:

a) Padraig Pearse's GAC's player x, player y, etc.
or
b) Padraig Pearse's player x, player y, etc.

Unless you want to speak mangled Mayo muck! 

You're wrong of course. The clubs are called Austin Stacks etc, not Austin Stack's GAC. Therefore the possessive of Stacks is Stacks'. Simple.

[macdanger2]

Moysider is correct.

The club would be called Padraig Pearse GAC rather than Padraig Pearse's which would be the possessive - the club is called after PP but it doesn't belong to him

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

You're wrong of course. The clubs are called Austin Stacks etc, not Austin Stack's GAC. Therefore the possessive of Stacks is Stacks'. Simple.

You can defend poor grammar all you like, but so far as I'm aware the 'Austin Stacks GAA Club' is named after only one individual, therefore you can compound their glaring grammatical error all you like. 

[theticklemister]

A debate within 30 minutes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AZOffaly]

Would you say "Come on the Pearses" or "Come on the Pearse"?

As gaeilge, they are Na Piarsaigh. QED.

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Moysider is correct.

The club would be called Padraig Pearse GAC rather than Padraig Pearse's which would be the possessive - the club is called after PP but it doesn't belong to him

Nonsense. The possessive doesn't only apply where someone owns something -- that would kind of rule out Wolfe Tone's grave, for example, since he can't own anything since he's dead!

[theticklemister]

" The big midfielder from Pearses caught the ball and as he raced through ,he scored a majestic point. He turned out to be Pearses' best man on the field"

Right or wrong?

[macdanger2]

" The big midfielder from Pearses caught the ball and as he raced through ,he scored a majestic point. He turned out to be Pearses' best man on the field"

Right or wrong?

Right

[macdanger2]

Moysider is correct.

The club would be called Padraig Pearse GAC rather than Padraig Pearse's which would be the possessive - the club is called after PP but it doesn't belong to him

Nonsense. The possessive doesn't only apply where someone owns something -- that would kind of rule out Wolfe Tone's grave, for example, since he can't own anything since he's dead!

Sure of course the grave belongs to him, who else would it belong to

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

Would you say "Come on the Pearses" or "Come on the Pearse"?
As gaeilge, they are Na Piarsaigh. QED.

Yes, but this is not about the As Gaeilge derivation, and even in Hiberno-English it won't stand -- Na Piarsaigh is ea, ní Na Padráig Piarsaigh é!

[Fear ón Srath Bán]

" The big midfielder from Pearses caught the ball and as he raced through ,he scored a majestic point. He turned out to be Pearses' best man on the field"

Right or wrong?

It's correct if you want to speak mangled english, but it isn't proper english language. The club is the Padraig Pearse's GAC. Simples.