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#16
Laois / Re: Laois SHC 2023
September 02, 2023, 02:11:49 AM
Quote from: Keyser Söze on September 01, 2023, 04:44:15 PM
Quote from: Laois man on August 31, 2023, 10:23:13 PM
Who is your 9s team?

Camross
Clough Ballacolla
Rathdowney Errill
Abbeyleix
Rosenallis
The Harps
Clonaslee
Colt Shanahoe
Mountmellick

So you'd promote Clonaslee and Mountmellick who are currently intermediate,into the senior championship over every team in the Premier Intermediate Championship?

Jesus wept
#17
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
August 27, 2023, 11:02:01 PM
Quote from: Giovanni on August 27, 2023, 10:02:40 PM
https://x.com/laoisgaels/status/1695799683371671760?s=46&t=grubKL1RsOWb2cojdN51-Q

The second team didn't play in the Arrabawn finals in Tipperary as they didn't qualify for the semifinals at any level.

The second team played in Dublin yesterday
#18
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
August 26, 2023, 09:15:26 PM
Laois then played  in the B Cup third and fourth place playoff against Kilkenny's second team

Laois 3-08
Kilkenny 8-19

#19
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
August 26, 2023, 02:38:12 PM
Result from the Arrabawn B  Cup  Semi Final Competition played in Cappawhite this morning

This would be the third level of the competition after the A Cup and Shield

Laois first Team v the Galway third team.

Laois 0:09
Galway 5:25

https://twitter.com/tipperarybng/status/1695399645340451191

https://twitter.com/tipperarybng/status/1695420272818401427?s=20



#20
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
August 13, 2023, 12:07:10 AM
Quote from: marty34 on August 02, 2023, 02:07:08 PM
Quote from: clonadmad on August 02, 2023, 12:10:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 02, 2023, 08:12:40 AM
Can't see it as they seem to be getting worse not better. Around 2012 or so they were beating kk and were genuine ai contenders(only for a year or so) and that was their chance I think...

Ryan O'Dwyer getting sent off in the 2013 All Ireland Semi Final was the sliding doors moment for Dublin Hurling

If he had stayed on they probably would have won and possibly won the All Ireland that year

Possibly but any team knocking on the door usually, the next year, push on.  This tells me that Dublin weren't nowhere good enough. They got close once but it's that consistency of winning Leinsters and getting to AI semi-finals is the issue.

They didn't do it then and haven't done it since.

They need a different way.

Neither Cork nor Clare pushed on either after that

Norma service resumed with kilkenny and tipp for the following few years
#21
Laois / Re: Laois Senior Football Championship 2023
August 12, 2023, 12:38:27 AM
Quote from: The PRO on August 11, 2023, 07:43:57 AM
Think Emo might beat O'Dempseys.
Portlaoise and Portarlington are certs. Killeshin might make it third time lucky v Killeen.
Graigue to edge The Heath and Joe's and BA to end a draw and go to penalties!
Would have predicted Ballyfin and Courtwood last night. It's noticeable that the dual clubs - Ballyfin, Rosenallis, Park-Ratheniska and Clonaslee are all likely to fight out the relegation battle with possibly Killeen getting dragged into it too.
It's hard to play championship every weekend in two codes with some or a lot of the same players.

Be interesting to see of the dual Clubs how many actually have dual players playing

I presume Rosenallis would have the highest playing with their first team  with park having the lowest
#22
Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling 2023
August 02, 2023, 12:10:23 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 02, 2023, 08:12:40 AM
Can't see it as they seem to be getting worse not better. Around 2012 or so they were beating kk and were genuine ai contenders(only for a year or so) and that was their chance I think...

Ryan O'Dwyer getting sent off in the 2013 All Ireland Semi Final was the sliding doors moment for Dublin Hurling

If he had stayed on they probably would have won and possibly won the All Ireland that year
#23
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 28, 2023, 04:33:54 PM
Quote from: Ogie on July 28, 2023, 03:26:41 PM
U14 Hurling Squad had one mentor with them only in Thurles last weekend,
Farcical set up too from the word go

Sweet Jesus
#24
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 28, 2023, 12:57:50 AM
Quote from: Batman!!! on July 27, 2023, 11:49:00 PM
Lots of waffle posted here

The results from last years Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh which I linked to,in a previous post don't lie

The results from this years Arrabawn u15 competition being played the end of August won't lie either

I have spoken to a few people in the past few days given the posts here from Hurling123 that are a lot closer to the u15's that what I would be

The difference between the u15 Hurling and Football set ups this year are night and day in terms of coaching,communication and organisation

The u15 hurlers have undoubted potential but the set up is shambolic

I witnessed it a few months back v Limerick in the CoE

I've also been in on other business and stood and watched training sessions which consisted of laps,backs and forwards and the 3 mentors chatting amongst themselves with no input or direction or coaching towards the players

If you don't believe me ,I'd ask you all to look into the u15 hurling set up and draw your own conclusions

I also am led to believe the u14 Hurling Squad is well organised.



#25
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 27, 2023, 10:43:19 AM
Quote from: Hurling123 on July 27, 2023, 09:54:25 AM
Glad to clarify.
What went up on twitter was incorrect due to games had to be changed due to the death of Dylan quirke. As I said I was there what was put up on twitter was incorrect Tipperary and Wexford were in laois team one group. Hope that clear any confusion.

Dillon Quirke died on the 5th of August last year

The Forristal and Walsh Conpetition took place on the 28th of August

Are you seriously telling us all that the Tony Forristal committee fabricated all its results,moved Laois out of the 16 team Forristal section,repeatedly put wrong results up then on social media and that no one challenged them ?

And that's even before we come to the spectators who witnessed the actual games ?


#26
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 27, 2023, 10:32:42 AM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 27, 2023, 07:52:33 AM
Quote from: clonadmad on July 26, 2023, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 26, 2023, 09:10:52 PM
Reading this thread with interest as I genuinely care about the state of Laois hurling. Often I read two people disagreeing on forums and I can cobble together the gist of the overall story as people will have share a common thread on details, facts, information (without actually agreeing).
However I have NEVER seen posters post such diametrically opposite details with both adamant they are correct. Can anyone corroborate either reports of results in Tony Forristal etc. ??

The Poster made the following comment

" The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out."

You can verify whether he told the truth or not here

Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh Results 2022 results available below


https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563643591699836928?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563651881267863552?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

Thanks. Some questions on the structure of the current Forristal/Walsh Tournament.

My understanding is Forristal Cup is top, Forristal Shield is next and then Sonny Walsh tier 3. Why (in the results) are Wexford 2 in the Forristal Shield but Wexford 1 in the Sonny Walsh competition? I also see a Tipp 1 and 2 in the Sonny Walsh. Theres also a Tipp 1 in the Forristal.  Are they different teams? Should it read Tipp 1 in Forr and Tipp 2+3 in Sonny Walsh.

It just makes for unclear reading.

Forristal is Top tier

And splits into Cup and Shield

Sonny Walsh is second Tier

And also splits into Cup and Shield

The numbering of Teams can be confusing all right

Tipp 1 as per your example in the Forristal os their number 1 team

Tipp 1 in the walsh is their second squad and tipp 2 is their third squad

Laois had 2 squads in the Sonny walsh

Waterford had 2 squads make Forristal semi finals
#27
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 26, 2023, 10:41:07 PM
Quote from: SpeculativeEffort on July 26, 2023, 09:10:52 PM
Reading this thread with interest as I genuinely care about the state of Laois hurling. Often I read two people disagreeing on forums and I can cobble together the gist of the overall story as people will have share a common thread on details, facts, information (without actually agreeing).
However I have NEVER seen posters post such diametrically opposite details with both adamant they are correct. Can anyone corroborate either reports of results in Tony Forristal etc. ??

The Poster made the following comment

" The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out."

You can verify whether he told the truth or not here

Tony Forristal and Sonny Walsh Results 2022 results available below


https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563643591699836928?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

https://twitter.com/tonyforristal/status/1563651881267863552?s=46&t=Z3KW3Rw04beopUDsdM2Hwg

#28
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 26, 2023, 08:59:58 PM
Quote from: Hurling123 on July 26, 2023, 07:09:43 PM
Look your opinion of this team has been so negative from your first post.
For such an informed man you clearly leave out so much information
You talk of this team at last year level . this team started out last year as 4 divisional teams .
They played other county teams while in this format
The  team reached the semi final of the Tony forrisal after beating cork and Wexford in Waterford lost to Tipperary who I believe won the competition out.
My point is if you have all the information why not put that up the positive aspects,.your comments are all so negative.
As I said my agenda is for development of this team and other underage teams in the county.i know that the management team are really struggling to get people to help out with mid week sessions. They train from 11 until 1.30 in the Coe on Tuesday. They also train every Saturday morning.
I will certainly try and make it down to Tipperary to support the lads.

I suspected you were a bluffer but you've convinced me now

Laois weren't good enough to play in the Tony Forristal last year

Tipp beat Waterford 2 in 1 semi and Kilkenny beat Waterford 1 in the other

Tipp beat KK in the Final

The Forristal Shield Final was between Wexford and Cork which Wexford Won.

Laois played in the Sonny Walsh which is for the next 16 teams in the Country

Results here

Were

Laois 1 0-07 Tipperary 3 12-08

Laois 2 2-10 Tipperary 2 7-15

Wexford 2 3-11 Laois 2 2-08

Kerry won the Walsh Shield

Cork won the Walsh Cup



Trials were based on 4 divisional teams which were shambolic in their organization and they were whittled down to 40 odd lads



#29
Laois / Re: The future of laois hurling
July 26, 2023, 04:42:24 PM
Quote from: Zooming around on July 26, 2023, 02:41:43 PM
Quote from: Hurling123 on July 24, 2023, 09:03:15 PM
   Arrabawn B QF   

   Galway 1 v Laois   
   Galway 2 v Dublin 2   
   Dublin 1 v Tipperary 2   O'Toole Park Crumlin
   Kilkenny 2 v Offaly 1   

      
  i dont think you understand what is need in Laois Hurling . keyboard warriors are not the answer . putting half truths out to there thinking this is a answer is dreaming .sorry in my late reply i am just back from coaching two hurling sessions to juveniles. i was involved with this current team but had to leave due to time commitments . the player you speak of was never even in the top 5 while i was there just like other members of his family he decided Laois was not what he wanted . he wasn't begged back as why should he be ?? the management moved on and built a stronger team . he certainty wasn't a team player .

my interest in the future of Laois Hurling. just seen this some time ago and it drives me mad when people put half untruths up to suit there agenda ??  this team(the first team) yes have lost to limerick and dublin in challenge game but gone on to beat limerick in limerick and galway in galway,destory antrim in antrim although i am not involved i still keep a keen eye on this squad . there second team are not bad hurlers but find it hard to string win together , you should really contact Shane keegan because i know this management panel are always looking for help to drive thing on

Expressing doubt over the reality of a result is not being negative. I am not a keyboard warrior and I seldom have a personal go at anyone on here. Also, I purposely stated I wasn't being negative, I was just curious as to how our lads could beat Galway's best team. Galway won their section of the Tony Forristal last year while Laois got nowhere in the B and suffered such results in some games as to cause an outcry here (rightly).
For example. I was in the COE when this squad played Kilkenny last year. Kilkenny absolutely riddled our lads and as the game went on they simply couldn't weaken their team anymore. All the subs were put on and corner backs plus the goalie put in the forwards, everything, but still no let up in the one way traffic. It was embarrassing and I felt sorry for the young lads.  I subsequently found out that this was a Kilkenny B trial team who had a number of players on the day who didn't even make their B squad. Earlier that year in one of the Leinster blitzes, Kilkenny and Galway played each other with both counties having 3 even teams, 72 players each. Both teams played 2 games (6 games in total). Both counties won 2 games with 2 being drawn. That would suggest to me that Galway and Kilkenny are very evenly matched. Hence my suspicion.
Just because a team is named as Galway 1 doesn't mean it's their A team.
I'd be pretty certain that our U15s are nowhere near the level of Galway. We'll wait for the next couple of minor championships to prove that. I hope I'm wrong.

Excellent informed Post

Lads coming on here telling us it's all rosey in the garden when it so patently isn't and most of us involved also at the coal face of Juvenile Hurling and Football

We won't have to wait for the minor championship

The Arrabawn Competition is on in Tipperary on the 26th of August this Year

24 teams involved

#30
Laois / Re: The Future for Laois Football
July 26, 2023, 12:23:18 AM
Quote from: Batman!!! on July 25, 2023, 10:46:19 PM
Does Donie Brennan now become an option for the Laois County Board to consider as the next Senior Football boss following his ladies step down? Remarkable job done with the ladies

Shur throw your name in the Hat,Donie

What's the worst that can happen ?