The IRISH RUGBY thread

[stew]

How badly does D'Arcy have to play before he's dropped?

By the law of averages he is due a good game which, when it arrives, will be used a justification for picking him. He has been a great player for us but I think he would actually benefit from being dropped for a game or two.

o'connell is worse that d'arcy

[muppet]

How badly does D'Arcy have to play before he's dropped?

By the law of averages he is due a good game which, when it arrives, will be used a justification for picking him. He has been a great player for us but I think he would actually benefit from being dropped for a game or two.

o'connell is worse that d'arcy

Dunno, Pauli is probably a better line-out operator than D'Arcy.

[Dinny Breen]

Good shout Dinny.

I had an inkling the Tuesday after the France game when I read the times and a few other papers since when all the talk was about territory and playing for position, so fully expected it. I think ROG has done well coming on but Sexton hasn't done anything wrong to step down, you could argue ROG has done enough in his cameo's to deserve a start and I'd have no issue with that as I think competition is healthy and very important. However this logic is flipped on it's head when Kidney then leaves D'Arcy in the team despite two awful performances. Very disappointed for McFadden as well, has done better than Earls imho but Bowe is our best winger.

Actually just really disappointed with that team and fully expect Scoltand to win by 8 - 11 points.

[screenexile]

I have much the same sentiments as you Dinny but I can't see Scotland winning this one especially with the injuries they have in the backline . . . they will create nothing and it will be an AWFUL game and we'll win it by 6.

[CiKe]

Faith in Kidney is gone at this stage, would echo sentiments of many about D'Arcy. Good to see Bowe back, but Kidney has made zero attempt to build a squad. I've no issues with DOC starting or Reddan but Stringer's head must be spinning, he's in out back in again and if O'Leary had made it, would have been dumped again no doubt... Along with Cullen I'd be surprised if he weren't more thana little f*cked off with their treatment.

Anyone close to the squad know what morale is like at all? To have guys busting their chops and never given a chance due to some people been undroppable can't be good I would imagine.

[Main Street]

Ireland should win pulling up, by a comfortable 6,7 or 8 points.

How come the hooker is always the lineout thrower? If the hooker isn't up to scratch, is there no other player who can do it?

[Celt_Man]

How in the name of jaysus did the Video Ref not award Italy a try there? Terrible decision

Good open exciting game all the same - 3 trys already in opening 20 mintues

[Hoof Hearted]

Ireland should win pulling up, by a comfortable 6,7 or 8 points.

How come the hooker is always the lineout thrower? If the hooker isn't up to scratch, is there no other player who can do it?

good question that. Like Golf, Rugby is a game steeped in traditions and rules so my guess is that always been tradition and a rule so wont be changed. No doubt some of the experts will correct me


http://jottingsonrugby.com/2010/09/15/rugby-line-out/

[thewobbler]

I don't understand why ROG is back. There's 5-6 world cup positions that need to be sorted, but Deccie is experimenting with one that doesn't need sorted.

Hookers don't have to throw line ball in. The French used to give the honour to their scrumhalf. But for most of the world, hookers practice the skill from an early age, and logic says therefore should be better at it than the rest of their team. Also, if you look at the attacking platform a good lineout can provide, you need your taller men in the line and your more skilful men coming off it. That leaves your front row to do the throwing and lifting.

[screenexile]

I don't understand why ROG is back. There's 5-6 world cup positions that need to be sorted, but Deccie is experimenting with one that doesn't need sorted.

Hookers don't have to throw line ball in. The French used to give the honour to their scrumhalf. But for most of the world, hookers practice the skill from an early age, and logic says therefore should be better at it than the rest of their team. Also, if you look at the attacking platform a good lineout can provide, you need your taller men in the line and your more skilful men coming off it. That leaves your front row to do the throwing and lifting.

Jees the Italians are giving it a fair lash fair play to them I hope they can do it!!!

[DuffleKing]

In theory, a taller man should be more accurate.

Maybe we've finally found Mick O'Driscoll's calling?

[Main Street]

I don't understand why ROG is back. There's 5-6 world cup positions that need to be sorted, but Deccie is experimenting with one that doesn't need sorted.

You should be able to understand the coachs' reasonings re selecting O'Gara, you just might not agree with them.

[screenexile]

BBC made a bad call hiring Serge Betsen!!

[Denn Forever]

Ireland should win pulling up, by a comfortable 6,7 or 8 points.

How come the hooker is always the lineout thrower? If the hooker isn't up to scratch, is there no other player who can do it?

good question that. Like Golf, Rugby is a game steeped in traditions and rules so my guess is that always been tradition and a rule so wont be changed. No doubt some of the experts will correct me


http://jottingsonrugby.com/2010/09/15/rugby-line-out/

Don't think it is a rule.  Hooker usually one of the shorter men on the team, so wouldn't be in the lineout. 

[Main Street]

But what skill does it take to throw the ball in accurately according to the call?
It does appear to be the preserve of the Hooker to do this job, regardless of his ability to do it, to the required standard.