Down Club Hurling & Football

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rosskarr


marty34

Quote from: SHEEDY on May 28, 2022, 09:16:17 PM
Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
??
??
Jim mcGuinness, Mickey Harte, Tony mcentee, just another couple of names

What has Mc Entee done to deserve to be in the mix?

thewobbler

Why waste money on big name managers and exhaustive back room teams?

It's too early for that.

Down need, first and foremost, a clean sweep of the cohort of players who've regressed individually and collectively over the past 5 years.

Find a man who's willing to do that, and rebuild Down from the bottom up. I don't care if we've never heard of him. That's the role, and it's not a role for someone who is used to fine tuning the pick of the litter.

SHEEDY

Quote from: marty34 on May 28, 2022, 09:28:24 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 28, 2022, 09:16:17 PM
Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
??
??
Jim mcGuinness, Mickey Harte, Tony mcentee, just another couple of names

What has Mc Entee done to deserve to be in the mix?
what has poacher done? It's just a list of names, some will be ruled out quicker than others
nil satis nisi optimum

Hard2Listen2

Quote from: SHEEDY on May 28, 2022, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 28, 2022, 09:28:24 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 28, 2022, 09:16:17 PM
Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
??
??
Jim mcGuinness, Mickey Harte, Tony mcentee, just another couple of names

What has Mc Entee done to deserve to be in the mix?
what has poacher done? It's just a list of names, some will be ruled out quicker than others

Down minors
Down U21s
Carlow
Roscommon
15 years at senior club

Probably the most experienced coach in the county

Hard2Listen2

Quote from: thewobbler on May 28, 2022, 09:33:35 PM
Why waste money on big name managers and exhaustive back room teams?

It's too early for that.

Down need, first and foremost, a clean sweep of the cohort of players who've regressed individually and collectively over the past 5 years.

Find a man who's willing to do that, and rebuild Down from the bottom up. I don't care if we've never heard of him. That's the role, and it's not a role for someone who is used to fine tuning the pick of the litter.

Big job description. Anyone in mind?


Lotto

Quote from: thewobbler on May 28, 2022, 09:33:35 PM
Why waste money on big name managers and exhaustive back room teams?

It's too early for that.

Down need, first and foremost, a clean sweep of the cohort of players who've regressed individually and collectively over the past 5 years.

Find a man who's willing to do that, and rebuild Down from the bottom up. I don't care if we've never heard of him. That's the role, and it's not a role for someone who is used to fine tuning the pick of the litter.

Absolutely Wobbler, I think we all agree on that.

SHEEDY

Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 09:42:38 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 28, 2022, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: marty34 on May 28, 2022, 09:28:24 PM
Quote from: SHEEDY on May 28, 2022, 09:16:17 PM
Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 08:30:24 PM
Who would be the candidates people on here would think off to replace James?

Conor Laverty
Mal O'Rourke
Steven Poacher
??
??
Jim mcGuinness, Mickey Harte, Tony mcentee, just another couple of names

What has Mc Entee done to deserve to be in the mix?
what has poacher done? It's just a list of names, some will be ruled out quicker than others

Down minors
Down U21s
Carlow
Roscommon
15 years at senior club

Probably the most experienced coach in the county
put him to the top of the list then?
nil satis nisi optimum

Lotto

Poacher - why would anyone ever put that man in charge of any team?

thewobbler

Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 28, 2022, 09:33:35 PM
Why waste money on big name managers and exhaustive back room teams?

It's too early for that.

Down need, first and foremost, a clean sweep of the cohort of players who've regressed individually and collectively over the past 5 years.

Find a man who's willing to do that, and rebuild Down from the bottom up. I don't care if we've never heard of him. That's the role, and it's not a role for someone who is used to fine tuning the pick of the litter.

Big job description. Anyone in mind?

I don't.

My heart says it needs to be a Down man to do it. But Rory Gallagher's progress with Derry the past few seasons would suggest it's not so much a patriot that's needed, just someone who's happy to start from scratch.


marty34

Quote from: thewobbler on May 28, 2022, 10:18:19 PM
Quote from: Hard2Listen2 on May 28, 2022, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: thewobbler on May 28, 2022, 09:33:35 PM
Why waste money on big name managers and exhaustive back room teams?

It's too early for that.

Down need, first and foremost, a clean sweep of the cohort of players who've regressed individually and collectively over the past 5 years.

Find a man who's willing to do that, and rebuild Down from the bottom up. I don't care if we've never heard of him. That's the role, and it's not a role for someone who is used to fine tuning the pick of the litter.

Big job description. Anyone in mind?

I don't.

My heart says it needs to be a Down man to do it. But Rory Gallagher's progress with Derry the past few seasons would suggest it's not so much a patriot that's needed, just someone who's happy to start from scratch.

Why does it need to be a Down man?

Similar to....we need to play the"Down way".

Wtf is that all about?

thewobbler

It doesn't need to be a Down man.

But this is going to take 12-24 months of hell to reroute.

Surely this would be a more natural vocation for someone from Down.

forevergreen

Get Laverty in and let him have a go. Hopefully he'll look to build on the 20s and squeeze the most out of whoever is left of the rest. It'll be a few years rebuilding but on the bright side Eugene will get "the different manager" he talked about and would play under  and maybe the Kilcoo lads will step up to help set the tone. Clean out needed either way and the Prima Donnas replaced with young, hungry footballers who want to drive down football forward.

Mourne Rover

There were no prima donnas at Breffni today, but just a group who were determined to do the best for their county in difficult circumstances. While it was a strange game, which still came to a predictable outcome, Down threw away the opportunity to be in a reasonable position at half time. We wasted a series of completely easy chances on either side of our early goal, and then managed to miss a twice taken penalty just before half time. It was tough asking Barry O'Hagan to hit the kick after he needed lengthy treatment for a vicious tackle which won the decision, but another goal would have left us starting the second half four points behind, with an extra man for the next ten minutes and the wind in our favour. Cavan, who were nothing special but capable of taking straightforward shots, then pulled away without any particular  difficulty. We had a few who were not of the standard required but some of the younger players, including Lynch, Magill, O'Hare and particularly Murdock are capable of developing over the next couple of years. Kerr and Gilmore also looked more than decent coming off the bench. A long hard road is ahead but, if we can produce a couple of leaders to replace Darren O'Hagan, we can make some kind of a start. He was brilliant again today, and, if it was his last appearance in a Down jersey, he will be remembered as our top man of the last decade by a distance.

rosskarr

Quote from: Mourne Rover on May 29, 2022, 12:10:03 AM
There were no prima donnas at Breffni today, but just a group who were determined to do the best for their county in difficult circumstances. While it was a strange game, which still came to a predictable outcome, Down threw away the opportunity to be in a reasonable position at half time. We wasted a series of completely easy chances on either side of our early goal, and then managed to miss a twice taken penalty just before half time. It was tough asking Barry O'Hagan to hit the kick after he needed lengthy treatment for a vicious tackle which won the decision, but another goal would have left us starting the second half four points behind, with an extra man for the next ten minutes and the wind in our favour. Cavan, who were nothing special but capable of taking straightforward shots, then pulled away without any particular  difficulty. We had a few who were not of the standard required but some of the younger players, including Lynch, Magill, O'Hare and particularly Murdock are capable of developing over the next couple of years. Kerr and Gilmore also looked more than decent coming off the bench. A long hard road is ahead but, if we can produce a couple of leaders to replace Darren O'Hagan, we can make some kind of a start. He was brilliant again today, and, if it was his last appearance in a Down jersey, he will be remembered as our top man of the last decade by a distance.
You must have been on the drink on the way home to come up with that analysis of today's match.The whole full back line including Lynch were abysmal.O'hare apart from his early goal was ponderous.Magill was steady and Murdock was good.One man's poison and all that.