The IRISH RUGBY thread

Started by Donnellys Hollow, October 27, 2009, 05:26:16 PM

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Hardy

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Are Irish rugby crowds the worst booers? It's at a ridiculous level in Connacht-Wasps. It's an almost constant background noise for parts of the game and EVERY decision against the home team attracts a storm of booing. What sort of supporters do these people think they are? I know it's only a minority but it only takes a few to make an annoying soundscape. One of the downsides of bandwagons I suppose.

Hardy


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seafoid

Quote from: muppet on December 17, 2016, 05:42:08 PM
Just looked at Dylan Hartley's stats in senior rugby.

79 tests (22 as sub) + 127 club games (23 as sub).

If we assume an average of 30 mins per appearance as sub then he has played (roughly) [57 * 80 (4,560 mins) + 22 * 30 (660mins)] + [104 * 80 (8,320mins) + 23 * 30 (690mins)] = 14,230 minutes played.

He has been given 60 weeks of suspension, or 1,512,000 minutes.

So roughly speaking, for every minute of rugby be has played, he has been suspended for over 100 minutes.
You are not comparing like with like. Even if he had been suspended for 2 weeks by your calculation he would be suspended longer than his playing time. 

trileacman

Quote from: seafoid on December 17, 2016, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 17, 2016, 05:42:08 PM
Just looked at Dylan Hartley's stats in senior rugby.

79 tests (22 as sub) + 127 club games (23 as sub).

If we assume an average of 30 mins per appearance as sub then he has played (roughly) [57 * 80 (4,560 mins) + 22 * 30 (660mins)] + [104 * 80 (8,320mins) + 23 * 30 (690mins)] = 14,230 minutes played.

He has been given 60 weeks of suspension, or 1,512,000 minutes.

So roughly speaking, for every minute of rugby be has played, he has been suspended for over 100 minutes.
You are not comparing like with like. Even if he had been suspended for 2 weeks by your calculation he would be suspended longer than his playing time.

Agreed that's a false analogy.
As seafoid said if he was suspended for 2 weeks then he'd probably have more suspension time than playing time as well.Bod or sexton have probably been suspended more time than they've played by such a way of comparison.
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trileacman

Quote from: Hardy on December 17, 2016, 07:11:10 PM
Are Irish rugby crowds the worst booers? It's at a ridiculous level in Connacht-Wasps. It's an almost constant background noise for parts of the game and EVERY decision against the home team attracts a storm of booing. What sort of supporters do these people think they are? I know it's only a minority but it only takes a few to make an annoying soundscape. One of the downsides of bandwagons I suppose.

I wouldn't say we are the worst but the Connacht crowd tonight were terrible for it. Really spoiled listening to it on the radio. Would have been disappointed at that had it been a GAA game.
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muppet

Quote from: trileacman on December 18, 2016, 01:22:45 AM
Quote from: seafoid on December 17, 2016, 10:30:14 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 17, 2016, 05:42:08 PM
Just looked at Dylan Hartley's stats in senior rugby.

79 tests (22 as sub) + 127 club games (23 as sub).

If we assume an average of 30 mins per appearance as sub then he has played (roughly) [57 * 80 (4,560 mins) + 22 * 30 (660mins)] + [104 * 80 (8,320mins) + 23 * 30 (690mins)] = 14,230 minutes played.

He has been given 60 weeks of suspension, or 1,512,000 minutes.

So roughly speaking, for every minute of rugby be has played, he has been suspended for over 100 minutes.
You are not comparing like with like. Even if he had been suspended for 2 weeks by your calculation he would be suspended longer than his playing time.

Agreed that's a false analogy.
As seafoid said if he was suspended for 2 weeks then he'd probably have more suspension time than playing time as well.Bod or sexton have probably been suspended more time than they've played by such a way of comparison.

This is daft. I am merely crunching numbers. It is a fact (unless I made an error) that, roughly, Hartley has been suspended for 100 minutes for every minute he has played.

Feel free to crunch Bod or Johnny's stats yourselves.
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seafoid

Hartley sleeps far more than he plays rugby matches. He eat his breakfast for more minutes than he plays rugby and when he is suspended breakfast wins even more.

DuffleKing


Yea but if he's suspended for a week he's actually only missing 80 mins of rugby


muppet

Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2016, 06:35:22 AM
Hartley sleeps far more than he plays rugby matches. He eat his breakfast for more minutes than he plays rugby and when he is suspended breakfast wins even more.

He is paid to play rugby.

He has to sleep and he has to eat. Being suspended for over a year, however, is a choice.
MWWSI 2017

seafoid

Quote from: muppet on December 18, 2016, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2016, 06:35:22 AM
Hartley sleeps far more than he plays rugby matches. He eat his breakfast for more minutes than he plays rugby and when he is suspended breakfast wins even more.

He is paid to play rugby.

He has to sleep and he has to eat. Being suspended for over a year, however, is a choice.
He is a thug. But the numbers have to be consistent.

muppet

Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 18, 2016, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2016, 06:35:22 AM
Hartley sleeps far more than he plays rugby matches. He eat his breakfast for more minutes than he plays rugby and when he is suspended breakfast wins even more.

He is paid to play rugby.

He has to sleep and he has to eat. Being suspended for over a year, however, is a choice.
He is a thug. But the numbers have to be consistent.

Numbers are consistent and don't lie. It is their interpretation that is the problem.

Lies, damn lies and statistics and all that.
MWWSI 2017

trileacman

Quote from: muppet on December 18, 2016, 12:10:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 18, 2016, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2016, 06:35:22 AM
Hartley sleeps far more than he plays rugby matches. He eat his breakfast for more minutes than he plays rugby and when he is suspended breakfast wins even more.

He is paid to play rugby.

He has to sleep and he has to eat. Being suspended for over a year, however, is a choice.
He is a thug. But the numbers have to be consistent.

Numbers are consistent and don't lie. It is their interpretation that is the problem.

Lies, damn lies and statistics and all that.

It was a shite analogy, quit digging.
Fantasy Rugby World Cup Champion 2011,
Fantasy 6 Nations Champion 2014

seafoid

Quote from: muppet on December 18, 2016, 12:10:52 PM
Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2016, 12:08:01 PM
Quote from: muppet on December 18, 2016, 11:52:59 AM
Quote from: seafoid on December 18, 2016, 06:35:22 AM
Hartley sleeps far more than he plays rugby matches. He eat his breakfast for more minutes than he plays rugby and when he is suspended breakfast wins even more.

He is paid to play rugby.

He has to sleep and he has to eat. Being suspended for over a year, however, is a choice.
He is a thug. But the numbers have to be consistent.

Numbers are consistent and don't lie. It is their interpretation that is the problem.

Lies, damn lies and statistics and all that.
the numerator and the denominator have to be in the same base