Noah's Army

Started by Dire Ear, March 28, 2021, 07:16:42 PM

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Snapchap

Quote from: keep her low this half on August 18, 2022, 04:27:33 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 18, 2022, 11:23:34 AM
Has the Noah case never been mentioned, even in passing, on the Nolan show either on the radio or TV?
Nolan will not mention it as he "does not wish to distress a grieving mother or interfere with an ongoing investigation"
Believe as much of that as you chose.
Yes far be it from Stephen Nolan to want to distress a grieving family. That's why he only devoted 2 years of coverage to Bobby Storey's funeral.

Jeepers Creepers

Quote from: Snapchap on August 18, 2022, 07:23:40 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on August 18, 2022, 04:27:33 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 18, 2022, 11:23:34 AM
Has the Noah case never been mentioned, even in passing, on the Nolan show either on the radio or TV?
Nolan will not mention it as he "does not wish to distress a grieving mother or interfere with an ongoing investigation"
Believe as much of that as you chose.
Yes far be it from Stephen Nolan to want to distress a grieving family. That's why he only devoted 2 years of coverage to Bobby Storey's funeral.

Loyalists have him over a barrel.

nrico2006

Quote from: Snapchap on August 18, 2022, 07:23:40 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on August 18, 2022, 04:27:33 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 18, 2022, 11:23:34 AM
Has the Noah case never been mentioned, even in passing, on the Nolan show either on the radio or TV?
Nolan will not mention it as he "does not wish to distress a grieving mother or interfere with an ongoing investigation"
Believe as much of that as you chose.
Yes far be it from Stephen Nolan to want to distress a grieving family. That's why he only devoted 2 years of coverage to Bobby Storey's funeral.

Sure was the Storey case not under investigation for months while he focused in it through his shows?
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

LeoMc

Quote from: Ty4Sam on August 08, 2022, 01:30:34 PM
Copied this, a good summary of this case.

Noah Donohoe left home on his bike Father's Day Sunday June 21st 2020, a warm sunny evening, approximately 5.30pm to make the journey across the city to meet with friends, to work on his Duke of Edinburgh award at Cavehill Country Park. It was a route he knew well, having taken it many times to and from his school at St Malachy's College on the Antrim Rd. Something would occur however, along Royal Avenue in the City Centre, which would cause Noah to change that well known route and instead of turning left @ Donegal St, cause him to continue on past Ulster University towards the Shore Rd, a part of the city unknown to him. Despite Royal Ave having over 180 CCTV cameras, only 22 would later be checked by PSNI to try to piece together his final journey and even more bizarre, none would pick up Noah . A witness statement would later be made claiming an attack on Noah with photographic evidence, on Royal Ave by 4 men, 1 of whom knew of Noah as his girlfriend resided in a hostel yards away from his home in South Belfast and is furthermore seen on CCTV watching him leave his home a short time earlier. This same man would also claim to 'find' Noah's backpack containing his laptop & books(clearly labelled with Noah's name) at the Ulster University ( though no CCTVfootage has ever shown either Noah drop his belongings here or indeed said man finding them here). An anonymous tip off would claim to see these possessions, along with Noah's North Face coat, still missing to this day, being paraded for sale at a house party in Skegoneil just off the Shore Rd by the same man, whilst the search for Noah took place just metres away. Despite a member of staff at Cash Converters calling police the following day to report a male & female entering the premises and attempt to sell a laptop, it would be days before the PSNI would visit their addresses. Noah's laptop would be found at the woman's hostel, claiming she was looking after it for the male. Neither their properties would be searched, forensics carried out or neither taken in for questioning. Noah is picked up on CCTV cycling along North Queen St/ York Rd at 6.01pm Sunday evening. A witness would see Noah fall from his bike moments before, dispose of his North face coat before quickly getting back on his bike and cycling on. The last sighting of Noah was minutes later on Northwood Rd. He can be  seen on CCTV naked and visibly in distress, running behind 2 houses. He then disappears, never to be seen alive again. Residents who claimed to have seen Noah all said they assumed it was a "Father's Day prank" and not one would go to assist a naked, distressed Noah. His naked body would be found 6 days later 950m deep inside an obscure storm drain, very few from the area knew existed behind houses on Northwood Rd. Before Noah's body was examined at autopsy, PSNI put out that they suspected "No Foul Play" and so the narrative was born that Noah died of misadventure and that he acted willingly and completely alone, the whole part of his journey. This theory was quickly questioned by his mother Fiona, who raised serious concerns about the PSNI's handling of her son's investigation. After the cause of death was recorded as drowning, it emerged that no water samples were preserved from the drain Noah apparently died, to compare with that in his lungs. This would either prove or disprove that he had indeed died in the drain. The drain area would never be forensically checked, and his family have queried why the only visible marks on Noah's body when found was a 16cm in diameter bump on his forehead. One would imagine that Noah having climbed his way the equivalent of 4 football pitches in pitch dark through a dirty storm drain, he would acquired significant scratches. Furthermore only his hands & feet would have water damage despite apparently laying in a drain which fills & empties twice daily, for 6 days. Why were bin lorries allowed up the street Noah was last seen, while a major search continued? Why were various witness statements discounted? Why was Community Search & Rescue sent up Cavehill when Noah was last seen in Northwood? Why did time stamps on the last CCTV footage of Noah change 3 times and most worrying of all, why has a Public Interest Immunity Certificate just been signed off concealing hundreds of pages of information relating to his death? It has only just been disclosed to Fiona that police after receiving intelligence on 27th June, had planned to search houses on Premier Drive & Northwood Rd. That very same day however, his body coincidentally would be found in the drain. PII's have been used here historically to protect identities of informants and strategies of police investigations, however the only other one ever used in a case involving a child was in that of  15yr old Arlene Arkinson. Robert Howard, a police informant, pedophile & child serial killer would be protected and cleared of her murder through the granting of PII. Howard would then go on to murder another child in England, before being brought to justice there. So the big question is, if Noah is the only one involved in Noah's death, why the need to conceal information? That information belongs to Fiona. To this day she still hasn't been told exactly when Noah died. It is her right as Noah's mother to know of his final days/hours, no matter what that was and those involved in his death to be brought to justice. Noah represents all of our children
and quite easily could have been. Which is why we all must stand in solidarity with her against PII on Saturday 13th August. If you can make it, please do. If we tolerate this, any of our children could be next!
#JusticeForNoahDonohoe
#Belfast #FeetOnTheStreet #Saturday13thAugust#Cityhall #1PM
#NoToPII
How much of that is fact, how much is conjecture, how much of it is distorted or hyperbole?

WT4E

When does the coroner rule on the PII and whats the likelihood he overturns it

johnnycool

Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on August 18, 2022, 07:46:33 PM
Quote from: Snapchap on August 18, 2022, 07:23:40 PM
Quote from: keep her low this half on August 18, 2022, 04:27:33 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on August 18, 2022, 11:23:34 AM
Has the Noah case never been mentioned, even in passing, on the Nolan show either on the radio or TV?
Nolan will not mention it as he "does not wish to distress a grieving mother or interfere with an ongoing investigation"
Believe as much of that as you chose.
Yes far be it from Stephen Nolan to want to distress a grieving family. That's why he only devoted 2 years of coverage to Bobby Storey's funeral.

Loyalists have him over a barrel.

He is a loyalist FFS...

Kidder81

Was Nolan not very heavy in on the RHI scandal at the time ?

johnnycool

Quote from: Kidder81 on August 19, 2022, 10:55:15 AM
Was Nolan not very heavy in on the RHI scandal at the time ?

He was and went to town on the DUP and rightly so.

you can still be a loyalist at heart and criticise incompetence/dishonesty when it arises.

Kidder81

I see Fiona Donohoe has asked that people stop speculating online that Noah was murdered and it is causing the family great anguish

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:54:28 PM
I see Fiona Donohoe has asked that people stop speculating online that Noah was murdered and it is causing the family great anguish

What does that mean, he was murdered so there is no speculating?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Kidder81

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2022, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:54:28 PM
I see Fiona Donohoe has asked that people stop speculating online that Noah was murdered and it is causing the family great anguish

What does that mean, he was murdered so there is no speculating?

No she said never once has she said he was murdered, just that there obviously unexplained circumstances around his death

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 01:05:58 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on August 22, 2022, 01:03:00 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:54:28 PM
I see Fiona Donohoe has asked that people stop speculating online that Noah was murdered and it is causing the family great anguish

What does that mean, he was murdered so there is no speculating?

No she said never once has she said he was murdered, just that there obviously unexplained circumstances around his death

Ah, I've not followed the whole media thing with it, for some reason I thought they had believed he was murdered and put somewhere afterwards
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

seafoid

Quote from: Kidder81 on August 22, 2022, 12:54:28 PM
I see Fiona Donohoe has asked that people stop speculating online that Noah was murdered and it is causing the family great anguish
It may be for legal reasons

tonto1888

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 22, 2022, 03:27:48 PM
All I'll say is that as someone whom had a family member killed in a road crash, rumours and speculation concerning the incident as open gossip or worse from those that have nothing to do with it almost always do nothing at best to help with the mental anguish of those whom they were close to that are living.

I acn only imagine how difficult a situation it is to be in without having to read/hear everybody's opinion on what happened, however well intentioned they are.

trailer

Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 22, 2022, 03:27:48 PM
All I'll say is that as someone whom had a family member killed in a road crash, rumours and speculation concerning the incident as open gossip or worse from those that have nothing to do with it almost always do nothing at best to help with the mental anguish of those whom they were close to that are living.

Is Fiona not fuelling a lot of this herself? That's the impression I get. Might be wrong. She is constantly on twitter.