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« Reply #180 on: August 04, 2022, 11:34:32 AM »
There are names of mount Vernon uvf members being circulated on tiktok. Is mount Vernon near there? Terribly sad for his mum. It would be nigh on impossible to get over the death of a child but this is beyond.

Mount Vernon is across the road from where he was found. I suspect the names you are referring to are the names Iíve been told. Wonít make it public here but itís kinda Ďdogs on the streetí but the net canít tighten for whatever reason.

Was there not also a "suicide" of a suspect who is alleged to have all but confessed to being a part if it?

There's some amount of pish on the internet but this bit ties in with the Mount Vernon connection as well.

When my wife tells me a story that she heard from tictioc or whatever its called, I tune out, I would put my wife down as intelligent but I think this is how social media makes you brain mush
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« Reply #181 on: August 04, 2022, 03:10:25 PM »
Howís it any different to some of the crap posted on here?

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« Reply #182 on: August 04, 2022, 03:25:46 PM »
Howís it any different to some of the crap posted on here?

Probably not, but there is the odd link to stuff that can be fact checked...

At the minute regarding this topic, emotions can sometimes cloud the facts, its pretty grim and will open up a can of worms if half the stuff you read is true
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« Reply #183 on: August 04, 2022, 04:53:11 PM »
Howís it any different to some of the crap posted on here?

Probably not, but there is the odd link to stuff that can be fact checked...

At the minute regarding this topic, emotions can sometimes cloud the facts, its pretty grim and will open up a can of worms if half the stuff you read is true

As grim as it is you kind of hope it's some awful accident because any of the other stuff hinted at is going to create a major shit storm.

One thing I still can't get my head round is that all the things that are said to have happened including quite a long bike ride all take place within 18mins.

I read this a while back but it's probably already out of date

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vice.com/amp/en/article/v7dkgy/he-was-seen-cycling-naked-through-a-housing-estate-and-then-he-vanished

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« Reply #184 on: August 04, 2022, 06:08:57 PM »
As said before you canít fart in public without it being on tik tok or WhatsApp 5 minutes later yet no footage of this young kid supposedly riding a bike naked?

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« Reply #185 on: August 04, 2022, 06:16:19 PM »
As said before you canít fart in public without it being on tik tok or WhatsApp 5 minutes later yet no footage of this young kid supposedly riding a bike naked?

That timeline is a bit short too, heíd lost his bag or was robbed near the house youíd  have went back home and told your mum? Rather than heading across town.

Itís full of different stories and accounts and littered with gaps
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« Reply #186 on: August 04, 2022, 06:25:49 PM »
As said before you canít fart in public without it being on tik tok or WhatsApp 5 minutes later yet no footage of this young kid supposedly riding a bike naked?

As far as Iím aware Fiona has seen footage from CCTV (unsure if it was CCTV, doorbell or car camera) of Noah running naked up the side of the house so there is confirmation that he was naked. I take your point though regarding no footage on social media. Thereís a llot of strange occurrences in this case, allowing a public enquiry or indeed even letting the family know in detail how and why they believe they know what happened would clear a lot up.

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« Reply #187 on: August 05, 2022, 02:03:33 PM »
I didnít miss the point. I havenít said anything about what  I think happened. Iím open minded. It was you that wanted to close down one possible scenario by labelling it conspiracy theory. When itís no more theory than your own.

Iím not closing anything down. Just labelling things for what they are. A conspiracy theory with no evidence to back it up is precisely that.

And those who donít want to be labelled conspiracy theorists have an open forum to post their supporting evidence.

As for my own ďtheoryĒ I only put it out there to highlight there are more than one explanation available here. Iím not saying itís true. Iím just saying that those punting a conspiracy theory donít even have the excuse that there are no other available explanations other than the theory they are punting.

I watched that Alex Jones debacle yesterday. His Sandy Hook BS doesnít have any less evidence to support it than the Deep State cover-up theory being pushed here.

A very disturbing murder with several bizarre features has occurred. We all hope it gets solved so at least that small crumb of comfort is there for the distraught family. Regrettably too many serious crimes go unsolved. In addition to the misery that levies on the families it also leaves a void that can get occupied with BS.

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« Reply #188 on: August 05, 2022, 02:46:42 PM »
I didnít miss the point. I havenít said anything about what  I think happened. Iím open minded. It was you that wanted to close down one possible scenario by labelling it conspiracy theory. When itís no more theory than your own.

Iím not closing anything down. Just labelling things for what they are. A conspiracy theory with no evidence to back it up is precisely that.

And those who donít want to be labelled conspiracy theorists have an open forum to post their supporting evidence.

As for my own ďtheoryĒ I only put it out there to highlight there are more than one explanation available here. Iím not saying itís true. Iím just saying that those punting a conspiracy theory donít even have the excuse that there are no other available explanations other than the theory they are punting.

I watched that Alex Jones debacle yesterday. His Sandy Hook BS doesnít have any less evidence to support it than the Deep State cover-up theory being pushed here.

A very disturbing murder with several bizarre features has occurred. We all hope it gets solved so at least that small crumb of comfort is there for the distraught family. Regrettably too many serious crimes go unsolved. In addition to the misery that levies on the families it also leaves a void that can get occupied with BS.

Thereís a podcast earlier that runs through most of the inconsistencies and lack of information. At a certain point you make a judgement call if it looks like there are holes everywhere and potential incompetence. Then wrap this up with a PII it becomes a case, in the lack of evidence to prove otherwise, that something is being covered up. I might be wrong on that, but to me and seemingly a lot of others, thatís the most likely explanation.
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« Reply #189 on: August 05, 2022, 04:46:42 PM »
I didnít miss the point. I havenít said anything about what  I think happened. Iím open minded. It was you that wanted to close down one possible scenario by labelling it conspiracy theory. When itís no more theory than your own.

Iím not closing anything down. Just labelling things for what they are. A conspiracy theory with no evidence to back it up is precisely that.

And those who donít want to be labelled conspiracy theorists have an open forum to post their supporting evidence.

As for my own ďtheoryĒ I only put it out there to highlight there are more than one explanation available here. Iím not saying itís true. Iím just saying that those punting a conspiracy theory donít even have the excuse that there are no other available explanations other than the theory they are punting.

I watched that Alex Jones debacle yesterday. His Sandy Hook BS doesnít have any less evidence to support it than the Deep State cover-up theory being pushed here.

A very disturbing murder with several bizarre features has occurred. We all hope it gets solved so at least that small crumb of comfort is there for the distraught family. Regrettably too many serious crimes go unsolved. In addition to the misery that levies on the families it also leaves a void that can get occupied with BS.

Thereís a podcast earlier that runs through most of the inconsistencies and lack of information. At a certain point you make a judgement call if it looks like there are holes everywhere and potential incompetence. Then wrap this up with a PII it becomes a case, in the lack of evidence to prove otherwise, that something is being covered up. I might be wrong on that, but to me and seemingly a lot of others, thatís the most likely explanation.

I watched the show last night and tried to be as objective as possible without being influenced by the bias of a grieving mother.  There are some interesting points made but not sure if there is a conspiracy or not.  The police's actions are shocking if they are true and the biggest issue from me was the water in Noah's lungs being tested - is that something that can no longer be done now?
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« Reply #190 on: August 05, 2022, 04:52:24 PM »
There are too many things that haven't been explained.
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« Reply #191 on: August 08, 2022, 01:30:34 PM »
Copied this, a good summary of this case.

Noah Donohoe left home on his bike Fatherís Day Sunday June 21st 2020, a warm sunny evening, approximately 5.30pm to make the journey across the city to meet with friends, to work on his Duke of Edinburgh award at Cavehill Country Park. It was a route he knew well, having taken it many times to and from his school at St Malachyís College on the Antrim Rd. Something would occur however, along Royal Avenue in the City Centre, which would cause Noah to change that well known route and instead of turning left @ Donegal St, cause him to continue on past Ulster University towards the Shore Rd, a part of the city unknown to him. Despite Royal Ave having over 180 CCTV cameras, only 22 would later be checked by PSNI to try to piece together his final journey and even more bizarre, none would pick up Noah . A witness statement would later be made claiming an attack on Noah with photographic evidence, on Royal Ave by 4 men, 1 of whom knew of Noah as his girlfriend resided in a hostel yards away from his home in South Belfast and is furthermore seen on CCTV watching him leave his home a short time earlier. This same man would also claim to Ďfindí Noahís backpack containing his laptop & books(clearly labelled with Noahís name) at the Ulster University ( though no CCTVfootage has ever shown either Noah drop his belongings here or indeed said man finding them here). An anonymous tip off would claim to see these possessions, along with Noahís North Face coat, still missing to this day, being paraded for sale at a house party in Skegoneil just off the Shore Rd by the same man, whilst the search for Noah took place just metres away. Despite a member of staff at Cash Converters calling police the following day to report a male & female entering the premises and attempt to sell a laptop, it would be days before the PSNI would visit their addresses. Noahís laptop would be found at the womanís hostel, claiming she was looking after it for the male. Neither their properties would be searched, forensics carried out or neither taken in for questioning. Noah is picked up on CCTV cycling along North Queen St/ York Rd at 6.01pm Sunday evening. A witness would see Noah fall from his bike moments before, dispose of his North face coat before quickly getting back on his bike and cycling on. The last sighting of Noah was minutes later on Northwood Rd. He can be  seen on CCTV naked and visibly in distress, running behind 2 houses. He then disappears, never to be seen alive again. Residents who claimed to have seen Noah all said they assumed it was a ďFatherís Day prankĒ and not one would go to assist a naked, distressed Noah. His naked body would be found 6 days later 950m deep inside an obscure storm drain, very few from the area knew existed behind houses on Northwood Rd. Before Noahís body was examined at autopsy, PSNI put out that they suspected ďNo Foul PlayĒ and so the narrative was born that Noah died of misadventure and that he acted willingly and completely alone, the whole part of his journey. This theory was quickly questioned by his mother Fiona, who raised serious concerns about the PSNIís handling of her sonís investigation. After the cause of death was recorded as drowning, it emerged that no water samples were preserved from the drain Noah apparently died, to compare with that in his lungs. This would either prove or disprove that he had indeed died in the drain. The drain area would never be forensically checked, and his family have queried why the only visible marks on Noahís body when found was a 16cm in diameter bump on his forehead. One would imagine that Noah having climbed his way the equivalent of 4 football pitches in pitch dark through a dirty storm drain, he would acquired significant scratches. Furthermore only his hands & feet would have water damage despite apparently laying in a drain which fills & empties twice daily, for 6 days. Why were bin lorries allowed up the street Noah was last seen, while a major search continued? Why were various witness statements discounted? Why was Community Search & Rescue sent up Cavehill when Noah was last seen in Northwood? Why did time stamps on the last CCTV footage of Noah change 3 times and most worrying of all, why has a Public Interest Immunity Certificate just been signed off concealing hundreds of pages of information relating to his death? It has only just been disclosed to Fiona that police after receiving intelligence on 27th June, had planned to search houses on Premier Drive & Northwood Rd. That very same day however, his body coincidentally would be found in the drain. PIIís have been used here historically to protect identities of informants and strategies of police investigations, however the only other one ever used in a case involving a child was in that of  15yr old Arlene Arkinson. Robert Howard, a police informant, pedophile & child serial killer would be protected and cleared of her murder through the granting of PII. Howard would then go on to murder another child in England, before being brought to justice there. So the big question is, if Noah is the only one involved in Noahís death, why the need to conceal information? That information belongs to Fiona. To this day she still hasnít been told exactly when Noah died. It is her right as Noahís mother to know of his final days/hours, no matter what that was and those involved in his death to be brought to justice. Noah represents all of our children
 and quite easily could have been. Which is why we all must stand in solidarity with her against PII on Saturday 13th August. If you can make it, please do. If we tolerate this, any of our children could be next!
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Re: Noah's Army
« Reply #192 on: August 08, 2022, 01:52:32 PM »
This whole case has been a shambles of incompetence from the police from start to finish,This pII also is very suspicious and makes me think of a cover up of some description behind the scenes,Fiona deserves the truth which is being blocked continuously.