***NEW Hurling Championship Proposals Revealed***

Started by thejuice, September 02, 2008, 05:04:43 PM

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thejuice

GAA President Nickey Brennan has revealed the details of the newly-structured Hurling Championship proposals which are set to be placed before Special Congress on 4 October at Croke Park.

Speaking at the launch of the M Donnelly All-Ireland Handball 60 X 30 Finals which will be held at Headquarters on Saturday next, Brennan pointed out that the HDC plans are coming on well, with Leinster Council officials the last of the provinces to have their say on the proposed changes at a special meeting in Portlaoise on Tuesday night.

The President is hoping to ease the concerns of Leinster officials, over the proposed introduction of both Antrim and Galway to their provincial championship.

He explained: 'What we want to do in Portlaoise is explain to Leinster how we feel about why we are asking them to facilitate Galway and Antrim.'

'We were up in Ulster last week and Ulster have completely come on board at this stage. If there are any fears on the Leinster side let them mention them tonight and we will hopefully allay those fears.'

A new four-tier structure is being proposed by the Hurling Development Committee (HDC), which will see an additional tier to the current system, with the fourth competition, proposed to be called the Lory Meagher Cup to cater for teams at the bottom end of the hurling structure.

The Liam McCarthy will continue with 12 teams and then under that there will be three tiers of competitions with eight teams each.

Proposed changes to the Leinster Hurling championship for 2009.

The championship will comprise of seven teams - Kilkenny, Wexford, Offaly, Laois, Dublin, Galway & Antrim

The proposal will be that the Leinster champions (Kilkenny)automatically get into the semi-final.

The other six teams will go into the first round proper. There will be a draw made for them in October this year after Congress and there will be three winners.

Those three winners will go into the hat with Kilkenny to pair off the semi-finalists. It is propsed that the draw for the semi-final will not take place until after the first round is completed in May 2009.

Beyond Leinster

The three losers in Leinster will meet up with the loser coming from the first round in Munster. That will be called pool one. They will play off down to two teams.

The other pool will be the two beaten semi-finalists in Munster, and the two beaten semi-finalists in Leinster. They will play down to two teams and then there will be crossover games between both pools.

They will be quarter-finals involving the beaten provincial finalists, with the winners of those playing the Leinster and Munster champions respectively in the semi-final."

Ulster Championship

The Ulster Championship will remain in place for the 2009 season. Along with their involvement in Leinster, Antrim are also expected to partake in their own provincial series.

The plans outlined above, if ratified by Congress are expcted to be in place for five years.
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016


EddieMerx

They didn't even win the Ring and Carlow who won the Christy Ring lost to Laois in a play-off

didlyi


I dont like the idea of Galway or Antrim playing in a 'Leinster Final'. Call it something else for Gods sake.
Surely the Ulster championship should be played first and the winners(maybe not antrim) play on in 'Leinster'
Other wise it sounds good. I am not in favour of the open draw as it will end up with too many games, many of them of no consequence in the later stages.

Over the Bar

QuoteI dont like the idea of Galway or Antrim playing in a 'Leinster Final'. Call it something else for Gods sake.

Exactly.  Galway, Leinster Champions 2012 sound a bit stupid.   Tri-Provinces or something would be a better title.

EddieMerx

Connacht is a pointless province anyway, might as well push to have it amalgamated into Leinster anyway. To be honest I don't care what they call it as long as it improves hurling

thejuice

Quote from: EddieMerx on September 03, 2008, 01:55:08 PM
To be honest I don't care what they call it as long as it improves hurling

Damn straight
It won't be the next manager but the one after that Meath will become competitive again - MO'D 2016

corn02

Quote from: thejuice on September 03, 2008, 02:31:40 PM
Quote from: EddieMerx on September 03, 2008, 01:55:08 PM
To be honest I don't care what they call it as long as it improves hurling

Damn straight

Seconded. Also how are Antrim going to play in two competitions. What would happen if for arguemnts sake they won both?

seafoid

Why don't they just get rid of the holy Munster championship and run it along the lines of the champions league group stages? More hurling, more matches, less old firm all irelands. If Tipp want to play  Cork in early July around hay time I'm sure goal could organise something. 
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

slow corner back

Quote from: corn02 on September 03, 2008, 03:57:17 PM
Quote from: thejuice on September 03, 2008, 02:31:40 PM
Quote from: EddieMerx on September 03, 2008, 01:55:08 PM
To be honest I don't care what they call it as long as it improves hurling

Damn straight

Seconded. Also how are Antrim going to play in two competitions. What would happen if for arguemnts sake they won both?

Antrim have been doing this for the last four years or so. Since the link was broken between the ulster championship and the all ireland in 2004 it does not matter who the ulster champions are. A lot of people have not realised this since Antrim have continued to win ulster but it has no link to all-ireland series.
The proposals seem fair enough the only issue being could antrim be playing an ulster championship one week and leinster the next, timing injuries suspensions could be an issue to say nothing of the knock on effect for club games in antrim. But despite those concerns I would be broadly in favour.

Galforever

QuoteAntrim have been doing this for the last four years or so. Since the link was broken between the ulster championship and the all ireland in 2004 it does not matter who the ulster champions are. A lot of people have not realised this since Antrim have continued to win ulster but it has no link to all-ireland series.
The proposals seem fair enough the only issue being could antrim be playing an ulster championship one week and leinster the next, timing injuries suspensions could be an issue to say nothing of the knock on effect for club games in antrim. But despite those concerns I would be broadly in favour.

It was a very competitive Ulster champinship this year with Down running Antrim close. So maybe the ulster champions being rewarded with a plce in a "rest of Ireland champinsip" might be a good idea.

Gnevin

Quote from: Galforever on September 05, 2008, 12:45:33 PM
QuoteAntrim have been doing this for the last four years or so. Since the link was broken between the ulster championship and the all ireland in 2004 it does not matter who the ulster champions are. A lot of people have not realised this since Antrim have continued to win ulster but it has no link to all-ireland series.
The proposals seem fair enough the only issue being could antrim be playing an ulster championship one week and leinster the next, timing injuries suspensions could be an issue to say nothing of the knock on effect for club games in antrim. But despite those concerns I would be broadly in favour.

It was a very competitive Ulster champinship this year with Down running Antrim close. So maybe the ulster champions being rewarded with a plce in a "rest of Ireland champinsip" might be a good idea.

10 years off feet dragging and Galway finally accept the common sense approach
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.

muppet

Quote from: Gnevin on September 07, 2008, 04:39:20 PM
Quote from: Galforever on September 05, 2008, 12:45:33 PM
QuoteAntrim have been doing this for the last four years or so. Since the link was broken between the ulster championship and the all ireland in 2004 it does not matter who the ulster champions are. A lot of people have not realised this since Antrim have continued to win ulster but it has no link to all-ireland series.
The proposals seem fair enough the only issue being could antrim be playing an ulster championship one week and leinster the next, timing injuries suspensions could be an issue to say nothing of the knock on effect for club games in antrim. But despite those concerns I would be broadly in favour.

It was a very competitive Ulster champinship this year with Down running Antrim close. So maybe the ulster champions being rewarded with a plce in a "rest of Ireland champinsip" might be a good idea.

10 years off feet dragging and Galway finally accept the common sense approach

Like a lot of things in this country politics not the game was the reason for the delay. Conor Hayes wanted to take Galway into Leinster when he was manager.

The Galway CB were against it.

The reason for that was that in Connacht they (County Board) are effectively a provincial council, in Leinster they would be a mere county board.
MWWSI 2017

The Wedger

The Leinster championship needs Kilkenny to be kicked out of it, rather than Galway to be brought in.

Gnevin

Quote from: The Wedger on September 08, 2008, 07:57:40 AM
The Leinster championship needs Kilkenny to be kicked out of it, rather than Galway to be brought in.
That is the strangest suggestion i have seen on this board in a long time .
Anyway, long story short... is a phrase whose origins are complicated and rambling.