Sam Maguire 2024 Group 1 - Galway, Armagh, Derry, Westmeath

[Blowitupref]

Just Padraig McGrogan that featured in the match against Galway in the league game not named on that Derry 26 and he's replaced by McKinless. A depleted side and potential injury crisis?

Loughlin and Murphy seem to be injured as well. 3 U20s named,  our bench isn't just as strong as it seemed during the league.

I hope McEvoy is fit but Harte likes to name bullshit teams so we'll find out on Saturday evening!

Danny McDermott, Ruairi Forbes and who else? were they on the senior panel already this year or added to the panel since the U20 Ulster final defeat.

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Just Padraig McGrogan that featured in the match against Galway in the league game not named on that Derry 26 and he's replaced by McKinless. A depleted side and potential injury crisis?

Loughlin and Murphy seem to be injured as well. 3 U20s named,  our bench isn't just as strong as it seemed during the league.

I hope McEvoy is fit but Harte likes to name bullshit teams so we'll find out on Saturday evening!

Danny McDermott, Ruairi Forbes and who else? were they on the senior panel already this year or added to the panel since the U20 Ulster final defeat.

Sorry you're right only 2 got Mark and Oisin Doherty mixed up!

[Wildweasel74]

McDermott some player but only 18, Some men dropped earlier in the year and should been kept. Some other lads left. Bench weak enough compared to, if they had the pick of all players in the county who could commit.That weakness probably cost us down the line. Forbes played a game in the McKenna Cup.

[onefineday]

No version of Derry has ever beaten Galway in championship, you can be sure that will be a factor on saturday.

Janey, even Armagh has beaten Galway.

Derry wans trying their hand at the cute hoorism here? Sure Derry were in the big three talk with Dublin and Kerry not just a few weeks ago.

I would be more confident going to Kerry or Dublin and getting a result than I am about saturday due to our previous with Galway.

Out of those 3 Galway would be the 1 to choose on the road.  This history v Galway will have no baring at all on Sat. I'd say at most 2 Derry players played in 2015 and will be involved on Sat. Pretty much all of them beat Galway in Salthill in March.

They bate us out the gate 2 years ago in AI SF in CP when most of this team were playing.

And a league result in March will have no bearing esp as Galway had so many out injured at that time.

PS I sincerely hope you are right.

This was much more defensive orientated Derry team in their 2nd year of development. The better team in the first half, beat by 5 after gifting Galway 6 points. Mayo v Donegal in 2013,now that was a team beat out the gate.

Again, playing Galway in Salthill, with this version of Derry will have much less a baring on this game than a potential injury crisis

Derry got a last minute goal to make the scoreboard respectable

Galway got a point tagged on at a half time in ridiculous fashion, granted, the rules didn't cover the scenario, but I'll never forget the look of confusion and disbelief on Glass's face as the point was added.
That a referee in a field sport would retrospectively make a change without resetting the clock to the point in time when the incident occurred is beyond belief imo. In hindsight, we were probably better off missing out on that all Ireland final, it might have done more harm than good!

[toby47]

Paudi McGrogan - ACL, Season over.
Niall Loughlin got an opp this week, season over?
Eoin McEvoy out with hamstring injury.
Conor Doc out
Murphy not back on 26 yet, still injured.
Chrissy & Rogers were doubtful, but looks like they will play.
A few other rumours but nothing confirmed.

Matthew Downey, Jack Cassidy, Conleith McGuckain all left the panel in recent weeks.

After league Dan Higgins, Callum & Enda Downey, Conor McGrogan, Oisin McWIlliams & Ben McCarron were all cut off panel - before team holiday to Portugal.

2 u20's called up since their defeat. Ruairi Forbes & McDermott - Both straight onto the panel for tomorrows game.


That seems to be the lay of the land at the minute. Derry's panel getting thinner, after looking like t was bulking up earlier in the season. Another injury or 2 would seriously derail us, especially if it's to the likes of Rogers who is carrying a hamstring injury at the minute.


From the League Final panel where we were all getting optimistic about Derry's panel finally looking strong we will be missing 7 of the 26.
4 Starters - McEvoy, Doherty, McGrogan, Loughlin
3 Subs - Matthew Downey, Conleith McGuckain, Cormac Murphy.

[Manning18]

Galway half forward line is definitely their weakest line, and another option (Cathal Sweeney) just dropped out through injury. So if the Derry injuries do arise, it's probably the area you'd be able to troubleshoot best

Who plays alongside McKinless in the event McEvoy and Doherty do indeed drop out? I assume they won't move Rodgers back on Comer again, leaving the task to McKaigue?

[toby47]

Galway half forward line is definitely their weakest line, and another option (Cathal Sweeney) just dropped out through injury. So if the Derry injuries do arise, it's probably the area you'd be able to troubleshoot best

Who plays alongside McKinless in the event McEvoy and Doherty do indeed drop out? I assume they won't move Rodgers back on Comer again, leaving the task to McKaigue?

Shea Downey, Gilmore, Eunan Mulholland would be the natural half backs on the bench. Declan Cassidy has been used in half forward but is a 'middle third' player so could be used. Emmett Bradley is the best player on the bench so if there's a re-jig they could try get him into the 15 if the likes of McFaul goes back into the half back line.

Both u20's can play half back, but it'd be a long shot they would be brought in for a start.

In short.....it's hard to know   

[statto]

Paudi McGrogan - ACL, Season over.
Niall Loughlin got an opp this week, season over?
Eoin McEvoy out with hamstring injury.
Conor Doc out
Murphy not back on 26 yet, still injured.
Chrissy & Rogers were doubtful, but looks like they will play.
A few other rumours but nothing confirmed.

Matthew Downey, Jack Cassidy, Conleith McGuckain all left the panel in recent weeks.

After league Dan Higgins, Callum & Enda Downey, Conor McGrogan, Oisin McWIlliams & Ben McCarron were all cut off panel - before team holiday to Portugal.

2 u20's called up since their defeat. Ruairi Forbes & McDermott - Both straight onto the panel for tomorrows game.


That seems to be the lay of the land at the minute. Derry's panel getting thinner, after looking like t was bulking up earlier in the season. Another injury or 2 would seriously derail us, especially if it's to the likes of Rogers who is carrying a hamstring injury at the minute.


From the League Final panel where we were all getting optimistic about Derry's panel finally looking strong we will be missing 7 of the 26.
4 Starters - McEvoy, Doherty, McGrogan, Loughlin
3 Subs - Matthew Downey, Conleith McGuckain, Cormac Murphy.

Would it be a concern the number of players leaving panel mid season, seems to be alot especially given the number of injuries Derry have at moment?

[shawshank]

Galway half forward line is definitely their weakest line, and another option (Cathal Sweeney) just dropped out through injury. So if the Derry injuries do arise, it's probably the area you'd be able to troubleshoot best

Who plays alongside McKinless in the event McEvoy and Doherty do indeed drop out? I assume they won't move Rodgers back on Comer again, leaving the task to McKaigue?

Shea Downey, Gilmore, Eunan Mulholland would be the natural half backs on the bench. Declan Cassidy has been used in half forward but is a 'middle third' player so could be used. Emmett Bradley is the best player on the bench so if there's a re-jig they could try get him into the 15 if the likes of McFaul goes back into the half back line.

Both u20's can play half back, but it'd be a long shot they would be brought in for a start.

In short.....it's hard to know   

Don't agree Bradley is the best county player on the bench, seen all our games and his contribution has been very poor. Cassidy a much better aggressive and powerful player, has contributed alot more in the games he has been involved.

Matthew Downey, Jack Cassidy, Conleith McGuckain all left the panel in recent weeks-they are no misses currently.

Its the four certs being injured thats has left us vulnerable.

[Blowitupref]

Galway team apart from Tierney,McDaid that would likely be Galway's strongest 15.

Connor Gleeson
Johnny McGrath, Seán Fitzgerald, Jack Glynn
Dylan McHugh, John Daly, Liam Silke
Paul Conroy, Seán Kelly;
Johnny Heaney John Maher, Céin Darcy
Rob Finnerty, Damien Comer, Shane Walsh.

Subs: Conor Flaherty, Seán Ó Maolchiaráin, Eoghan Kelly, Daniel O'Flaherty, Cian Hernon, Patrick Egan, Kieran Molloy, Liam Ó Conghaile, Cillian Ó Curraoin, Matthew Tierney, Cillian McDaid.

[statto]

Galway team apart from Tierney,McDaid that would likely be Galway's strongest 15.

Connor Gleeson
Johnny McGrath, Seán Fitzgerald, Jack Glynn
Dylan McHugh, John Daly, Liam Silke
Paul Conroy, Seán Kelly;
Johnny Heaney John Maher, Céin Darcy
Rob Finnerty, Damien Comer, Shane Walsh.

Subs: Conor Flaherty, Seán Ó Maolchiaráin, Eoghan Kelly, Daniel O'Flaherty, Cian Hernon, Patrick Egan, Kieran Molloy, Liam Ó Conghaile, Cillian Ó Curraoin, Matthew Tierney, Cillian McDaid.

Think the bookies may have got this one wrong 6/4 Galway playing at home with all their main men coming back and good record v Derry, who for the first time in a couple of years their squad is being tested due to injuries should make for very interesting game.