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[munchkin]

You have it in the end, better to play league games with points biased to when the county players are there, than nothing at all when everyone is waiting for the county lads to come back.

Cavan tried something similar with having only certain "super" league games counting to promotion and relegation, but it was confusing and then meant that "normal" league games were essentially meaningless. Not sure if its still the structure there, but the Monaghan one is way better. 

The acceptance of the scheme I think was down to the fact that it wasnt a plan dreamed up by the county board and then forced through. There was a series of consultations with the county manager and clubs (and back and forth, and in circles) so everyone had their input until finally the final plan was made, and in the end they had a  buyin to it as it was their plan rather than the county boards plan.

[Rossfan]

Ros is having a County Cup for May/June to give club only players games in the height of summer.
2 or 3 clubs have opted out already!!

[westbound]

Ros is having a County Cup for May/June to give club only players games in the height of summer.
2 or 3 clubs have opted out already!!

The 2 or 3 clubs opting out devalues it straight it away.

The monaghan solution is (in theory) a way better solution. If it works, it could be a blue print to how a lot of counties run their leagues.
IMO, in broad terms there are only two possible solutions to the lack of definitive club fixtures:

Either 1) play club matches (and have county players available) in a 6 month period from Jan-Jun (or Jul-Dec) or any consecutive 6 month period. Play county matches in the other 6 months of the year (I.e. the county season is 5-6 months long and the club season is 5-6 months long). This way, DEFINITIVE fixtures can be given for both club and county
OR 2) play club matches at same time as county games but without county players (e.g. pro14 in rugby)

The monaghan solution gives a good variation on option 2 where 'important' club games (i.e. not pre-season cup competitions) are played without county players during the county season, but the 'more important' club games (i.e 5-point league games & Championship) are played with the county players.

[Owenmoresider]

Ros is having a County Cup for May/June to give club only players games in the height of summer.
2 or 3 clubs have opted out already!!

We did our warm-up competitions in the summer (!) in recent years and it was similarly farcical. Indeed we only have one round of that played so far so the rest I assume are going to be across the April-June period.

Interesting to see that Monaghan clubs get 18 league games and at least 2 championship, making 20, don't know if they have a third competition or not, but many Sligo clubs only get a minimum 11/12 games across league/championship. My own being in D3 only gets a minimum 11 across all 3 competitions. It's a lot of training for so little playing.

[Rossfan]

If I was Ros Co Board I'd have 8 team divisions in the Leagues -play 1 series of  7 without Co players, the other with the Co players.
At least the club only players would get at least 14 League plus 5 Championship  games between 1st March and 1st weekend September -27 weekends.
County lads would have minimum 12 Club (or up to max17) games plus anything up to 20 or as few as 12 County games.

[westbound]

If I was Ros Co Board I'd have 8 team divisions in the Leagues -play 1 series of  7 without Co players, the other with the Co players.
At least the club only players would get at least 14 League plus 5 Championship  games between 1st March and 1st weekend September -27 weekends.
County lads would have minimum 12 Club (or up to max17) games plus anything up to 20 or as few as 12 County games.

That's a good suggestion too.

From a club players point of view, anything that keeps you playing meaningful matches while the county lads are away without being OVERLY disadvantaged is what's important.
I guess the disadvantage with your proposal is that clubs with a lot of county players are disproportionately disadvantaged for the 7 matches they are missing. The monaghan proposal (by putting a higher weighting on the other games) reduces this disadvantage somewhat.

[Rossfan]

True but I think the League determines a club's  grade there so they had to devise that system.
In Ros the League is a stand alone competition but the idea of extra points for the games with the County lads could still be used.

[Farrandeelin]

Mayo have Divisional games in Spring. The county leagues run throughout the summer with 5 games starred (no county players) out of 11. Bottom 3 divisions not harmed by this. There's the third competition starting the 12th May also. I must say it is good for giving players games. Only Castlebar have opted out of thus 3rd competition this year.

[Jinxy]

Do most counties have a tertiary competition nowadays, e.g. the Feis Cup in Meath?
Between league, championship and that, there should be plenty of football that can be played over the summer months without county players needing to be involved.
Just give lads games ffs.

[Orchard park]

Mayo have Divisional games in Spring. The county leagues run throughout the summer with 5 games starred (no county players) out of 11. Bottom 3 divisions not harmed by this. There's the third competition starting the 12th May also. I must say it is good for giving players games. Only Castlebar have opted out of thus 3rd competition this year.

and they have an extra player available now that Vaughan is a committed mitchells man

[Dinny Breen]

I would prefer if he was more socialist in his outlook than capitalist.

Mr Ryan is off to a bad start.

[Jinxy]

The worst possible thing he could do is try and spin his way out of this.
The GAA have been tried & found guilty in the court of public opinion.
They can't turn this around now.
I have a gut feeling they will list out all the times Kildare willingly gave up home advantage before, as if this is somehow relevant and ask people to think of all the Mayo kids who won't get to see the game.

[Mayo Mick]

I would prefer if he was more socialist in his outlook than capitalist.

Mr Ryan is off to a bad start.

This should be a resigning or firing matter - either McGill or Ryan.

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

McGill's position will be untenable regardless of the outcome.

[Kuwabatake Sanjuro]

And John Horan is very quiet at the moment. He was disgraceful at the time of the Laois home game in Kilkenny debacle.