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Id like to hear the thoughts of the bigdog and southtyronegael on the actual match itself this weekend.  Would like both of them to review it and give what they think the outcome will be.

Forget about Mickey for the time being if that's possible & base your thoughts on the players and how you see it going.  Lets forget about Mickey for a moment and discuss the football match itself.

I thought Conal McCann showed very well when he came on against Monaghan, fielded a lovely ball when the pressure was on in the last ten. I would drop Richard Donnelly put Colm Cavanagh into full forward putting Conal into midfield. We can't afford to let Cooper and McMahon bully our forwards putting Colm in there would be a real statement of intent. If Tyrone have the athleticism and bench to compete with Dublin for 75 mins then let's go man to man. It's just a matter of improving on what Mayo done. It's time Harte showed faith in these players. Let's get tore into them. The f**king about with defensive stuff is pointless against this Dublin team even with one sweeper. It's high risk but it has to be done.

Interesting watching the documentary the other night. Myself and Paul McGirr were in the same class at St Ciaran s for five years. Can't say me and him were any big mates or anything, that was probably to do with him supporting United and me Liverpool lol. You had a choice during PE you wore a plain white t shirt or a Tyrone jersey. McGirr always wore a Tyrone jersey with the red collar up. He looked like a lad who dreamed about playing for Tyrone. Always played with the head up, good fielder of the ball excellent free taker off the ground. Paul was definitely the star player going into the 97 minors. When you look at the 05 Final that forward line would have been complete with Paul at 12( even though Ryan Mellon had a good performance). Hearing his father talk about their final conversation was very emotional  to watch. To think that Paul gave all for that Tyrone jersey, the Red hand. That's what these Tyrone players come Sunday should understand. The men that came before Paul, Cormac McAnallen look what they gave? Tactics can only get you so far it will be blood and thunder that will win Tyrone this All Ireland and no shortage of bravery from the players and more importantly the sideline. Let's hope they can do Paul McGirr and Cormac McAnallen s family proud.

[I was in Navan with a Meath jersey on]

Mickey said in the Irish News he only wants support from those who went to Navan back in June. I was in Navan with a Meath jersey on, would that matter? Wonder is Roisin Jordan going?

So you're a Meathie?

No...He's an Augherie. And ever since his namesake and clubman (some lad called Eugene something) got ousted from the Tyrone seniors he has done nothing but spout hate and negativity towards Tyrone GAA.

By all means wear away at whatever geansaí you want, but please don't take a ticket from a deserving candidate. Save your putrid for the high stool and let us real Tyrone gaels (be that North, SOUTH, East or West) get on with supporting our County.

Apparently if you hate Mickey Harte you hate Tyrone? Oh no oh no. I wanted a Meath win so I could see the pressure pile on Mick. Just like a lot of Tyrone Gaels I might add! Lol

Mickey said in the Irish News he only wants support from those who went to Navan back in June. I was in Navan with a Meath jersey on, would that matter? Wonder is Roisin Jordan going?

That programme shows you how great a manager Harte is.
Tyrone were nothing before he came along, (don't say he inherited great players) as Tyrone won two u21s with Canavan etc before that and no All Ireland's. we were bottle merchants on the big stage and no one feared us, as the Kerryman said.
he moulded a team of winners. As well as that he has kept Tyrone at the top table ever since 2003 - take a look at other counties such as Armagh and Derry. The worst Tyrone ever got during his time was Div 2 with straight promotion the following year. The number of trophies he won is incredible.
Anyone who calls for him to go is an idiot, and should be careful for what they wish for.

Of course micky harte will go down as a great manager however to say Tyrone were nothing (which granted is subjective as your nothing may not be as bad as mine) beforehand is a bit harsh. 
- The 6 counties in general didn't perform outside of Ulster with down the only winners until 1993.
-Tyrone in 1986 would win in the modern game as 7 point lead would be mass defended and counter attack the mode of play. 
-1995 should have went to a replay so in my opinion a bit of luck was the ingredient missing up until that time with the u21 all Ireland winners a big part of that team.  Peter the great still being around 8 years later.
-Tyrone as a county are in the top 10 counties for land mass and population so when proper underage coaching was put in place we started to reap the rewards at county and school level. 
- I don't think you can argue with inheritance of players being  major factor as well in our amateur play where you are born sport as i think you will agree he wouldn't have been able to win with Carlow etc.
- I believe good Friday agreement was also a factor in that the ending of the troubles ended a potential avenue for "distraction" away from football
- and probably most importantly he took over 2 years into the back door system which means he certainly wouldn't have won as many all Ireland titles without it and in my opinion wouldn't have lasted as long as he has done without that system in place.
So great manager yes but would Tyrone have won an all Ireland if micky harte had never taken over? I have to believe with all the other factors I've mentioned then yes they would have eventually!

Good observation local expert. From the period 1984 to 2002 Eugene Mckenna won six Ulster titles as player/ Manager plus two All Ireland final apperances through the front and only door aswell as our first senior national title in 2002. Mickey Harte from the period 2003 to now has also won six Ulster titles, only one All Ireland final through the front door aswell as his national league back in the same year. Of course Harte got the All Ireland unlike McKenna. Then the back door came in and really benefited Harte unlike Eugene Mckenna in the 80s and 90s. To think Harte as he said in yesterdays Irish News when confronting the Tyrone county board 'their wasn't much won before I came along!' Unbelievable arrogance and no small distortion of reality.

History is history. After beating little Monaghan for the third time at croke park in five years Harte is in the mood for gloating in the back of today's Irish News. Let's save the gloating for next Monday morning Michael.I for one will be the happiest man in Tyrone if you pull it off.

I see our own STG is taking an absolute pasting on another form of Social Media. And it's good to see. True gaels, all over the county, are sick of the putrid that he posts over and over again. To even have Tyrone Gael in his name is laughable. That man is no Tyrone Gael. Roll on next Sunday where all good Tyrone men, women and children can unite together in a great day for our communities and County as a whole.

wise up you clown. I take responsibility for everything I say on here, but do not try to link me with someone else's comment elsewhere, especially when you haven't a shred of proof it was me. Shame on you fella.

LOL. I see that Facebook post has now got 135 likes and a lot of Tyrone support liking it. Not exactly a pasting! Of course we ve got the usual bunch of losers on going around in circles about  'mickeys three All Ireland s' lol

That audio from off the ball is great, thanks for sharing. Looking forward to the show tonight.

No worries. I never realised Hubs family tragedy was the same summer as Paul McGirr. He's been through alot.

A notorious stretch on the A4 at cabragh. Two young brothers who played for the Galbally pearses club also died on it which could have been around the same time or after.

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/jim-mcguinness-tyrone-must-challenge-dublin-s-extremist-game-plan-1.3602290

what Jim thinks we need to do....

Jim turning football into a science project again. I don't understand why Tyrone can't go man to man with Dublin just like Mayo. We have the athletes to compete. Would Ciaran Kilkenny enjoy having Conor Meyler for company all day? You could easily get the match ups right. What Tyrone can do and should have been doing years ago is getting Colm Cavanagh into full forward and getting stuck into that dodgy defence. This would certainly put pressure on cluxton and his kickouts. Let's keep it simple Jim and give us something to be proud of in Tyrone again.

A quick scan through your posts SnapChat and you are quite the white knight.  Your doing a brilliant job son, a brilliant job.

Are you OK with people using online anonymity to personally abuse/bully named GAA people?

Not really but here we are I guess, nobody said this world was perfect mate.

Im a Mickey Harte fan for what its worth.

Nor did I say it was perfect. But sure wouldn't it be that bit better if we didnt have people hiding behind online anonymity to personally abuse named GAA people? And sure wouldn't it be a small bit better if those who speak out against that sort of behaviour weren't mocked as "white knights" for doing so?

It's not I and others who bring this forum down. It's you pal!  Accusing me of bullying Mickey Harte. Is Mickey on this thread on a regular basis? Are you Mickey Harte? What exactly have I said that is bullying? You just seem to come out with the same crap. The problem is you don't like what I have to say and if their is bullying or abusive behaviour on my part I would be put off this forum quicker than you can say "Sean Cavanagh s book will fly off the shelves!" Harte might be able to control the Irish News, RTE or any other media because that's what I would call BULLYING. He won't be controlling me.

Don't be such a p***k Redhand88.  Are you 12?  You and a few others on here have been an absolute embarrassment to real Tyrone people! Some the stuff you have come out with since the Donegal game has been pure horse shit.
Hopefully the mods do their job.

It seems this applies to Snapchap aswell. Sad act

A sad act? What have I done? I haven't revealed anyone's identity. Mind you it is tempting to do so. It's something I would never even be tempted to do for anyone on this site with the exception of thebigdog (aka southtyronegael). I cannot abide cowards using a fake name online to dish out personal abuse about named GAA people. Criticise Harte all you want about football, but this contributor has a long history of making some seriously uncalled for, personally abusive comments about Harte on issues not even remotely related to the GAA. A cowardly little sc**bag that lives for doing that sort of thing to a fellow GAA person deserves to be named and shamed.

I wont name the person here, but if anyone feels like it, go for it. Perhaps it might entice the lowlife to stop using online anonymity to essentially attempt to bully and belittle people out in the real world.

Christian Mickey Harte still won't accept an apology from a perceived insult by RTE seven years ago. IL just leave that there lol

[because his bestie didn't get a big job on the TV station.]

Why do you think their are problems in attack? Mickey s poor tactics. The RTE boycott has been going on now since 2011 for no apparent reason other than Mickey didn't like getting ridiculed because his bestie didn't get a big job on the TV station. Looks like Harte comes first in Tyrone and f**k the players and their moment in the sun.

Spreading the message across facebook too, are we?

yes that's me break open the champagne!!

A little bit of reality needed. Tyrone have beaten Monaghan again in Croke park just like 2013 and 2015 only this time in a Semi final. We all know what happened after. The personnel hasn't changed much especially in attack. That's where the problems mainly lay. It's gonna be a tough ask in two weeks.

I agree with you there. Hartes done a great job considering the players at his disposal.

Why do you think their are problems in attack? Mickey s poor tactics. The RTE boycott has been going on now since 2011 for no apparent reason other than Mickey didn't like getting ridiculed because his bestie didn't get a big job on the TV station. Looks like Harte comes first in Tyrone and f**k the players and their moment in the sun.

A little bit of reality needed. Tyrone have beaten Monaghan again in Croke park just like 2013 and 2015 only this time in a Semi final. We all know what happened after. The personnel hasn't changed much especially in attack. That's where the problems mainly lay. It's gonna be a tough ask in two weeks.

Goals and plenty of them. Kitchen sink, cupboard s, washing machine, tumble dryer, the whole lot threw at the Dubs in the first 75 minutes. This one could be an epic! Like I said that Dublin full back is vulnerable and we definitely need a physical presence in there. Get the ball in high and early.