Apathy towards GAA in the south

Started by tiempo, May 31, 2022, 04:15:10 PM

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tiempo

Why is it that Sligo, Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Waterford, Clare, Wicklow, Wexford, Tipp, Meath and Cork can't get their arse in gear in terms of putting up a challenge to the hegemony of Dublin and Kerry in Leinster and Munster?

Each of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.

Are these counties lacking in the top 6 inches, or is it minerals they require?

I saw an article out of Cork recently bemoaning their removal from the All-Ireland Junior Football Championship, this sums up the mentality of a once proud county who can't help but roll over for the annual belly ticking in the Munster Championship against their old rivals from Kerry.

I'm beginning to think at a deeper level there is just an apathy towards the GAA in the south, or at least an apathy towards rolling the sleeves up and becoming competitive, something that certainly can't be said of counties in the north, with the possible exception of Down.

Rossfan

Have ya heard of hurling?
A GAA sport very popular in the Southern :-[ half of the Country especially in 5 Munster Counties.
Sligo is very soccer orientated...  De Roooooovers are big there. Westmeath  Laois, Offaly have a lot of hurling too.
Kildare won 3 Leinsters in about 90 years as horsy stuff is the big thing there.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

seafoid

Munster is a hurling province. Kerry often get a decent challenge from Cork but the langers are no good at the moment.

Leinster is a political issue. The GAA decided to fund Dublin and to hell with the rest.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

johnnycool

Quote from: tiempo on May 31, 2022, 04:15:10 PM
Why is it that Sligo, Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Waterford, Clare, Wicklow, Wexford, Tipp, Meath and Cork can't get their arse in gear in terms of putting up a challenge to the hegemony of Dublin and Kerry in Leinster and Munster?

Each of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.

Are these counties lacking in the top 6 inches, or is it minerals they require?

I saw an article out of Cork recently bemoaning their removal from the All-Ireland Junior Football Championship, this sums up the mentality of a once proud county who can't help but roll over for the annual belly ticking in the Munster Championship against their old rivals from Kerry.

I'm beginning to think at a deeper level there is just an apathy towards the GAA in the south, or at least an apathy towards rolling the sleeves up and becoming competitive, something that certainly can't be said of counties in the north, with the possible exception of Down.

Could you say the same for the Fermanagh hurlers, why aren't they giving Kilkenny and Limerick a run for their money?

armaghniac

There is no excuse for Cork, but the likes of Offaly have certainly played their bit in the GAA.
Why is there such apathy in Antrim?
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

full moon

There are many reasons which have been covered, verging from hurling, lack of population, soccer/rugby, lack of funding.

Many hurling folk are not fond of Gaelic football judging from their comments online, they spend half time getting digs in at football. Only a handful of counties care about hurling. That's their own fault the top counties were happy to keep all the goodies to themselves, they won't even allow Kerry in the Munster hurling championship. 5 tiers and  they're happy to keep the others down.

full moon

Quote from: johnnycool on May 31, 2022, 05:07:32 PM
Quote from: tiempo on May 31, 2022, 04:15:10 PM
Why is it that Sligo, Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Waterford, Clare, Wicklow, Wexford, Tipp, Meath and Cork can't get their arse in gear in terms of putting up a challenge to the hegemony of Dublin and Kerry in Leinster and Munster?

Each of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.

Are these counties lacking in the top 6 inches, or is it minerals they require?

I saw an article out of Cork recently bemoaning their removal from the All-Ireland Junior Football Championship, this sums up the mentality of a once proud county who can't help but roll over for the annual belly ticking in the Munster Championship against their old rivals from Kerry.

I'm beginning to think at a deeper level there is just an apathy towards the GAA in the south, or at least an apathy towards rolling the sleeves up and becoming competitive, something that certainly can't be said of counties in the north, with the possible exception of Down.

Could you say the same for the Fermanagh hurlers, why aren't they giving Kilkenny and Limerick a run for their money?
Maybe because they have a small population and half of that are unionists. And they care for football.

Kilkenny and Limerick have a much bigger pick and even then Kilkenny abandoned football entirely!

Tubberman

Sure Roscommon is further south than Sligo
"Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall."

Turf

Apathy towards GAA? Surely you mean apathy towards Gaelic Football which even itself is a stupid thing to say.
If Dublin were in Ulster or Connacht they would be winning those provinces almost every year also.

Turf

QuoteEach of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
;D
Yeah Monaghan and Roscommon would really be putting it up to Dublin every year if they played in Leinster  ;D ;D ;D

Armagh18

Quote from: Turf on May 31, 2022, 09:12:34 PM
QuoteEach of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
;D
Yeah Monaghan and Roscommon would really be putting it up to Dublin every year if they played in Leinster  ;D ;D ;D
They certainly wouldn't roll over and have their bellys tickled like all of Leinster does.

Itchy

Quote from: tiempo on May 31, 2022, 04:15:10 PM
Why is it that Sligo, Offaly, Laois, Westmeath, Waterford, Clare, Wicklow, Wexford, Tipp, Meath and Cork can't get their arse in gear in terms of putting up a challenge to the hegemony of Dublin and Kerry in Leinster and Munster?

Each of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.

Are these counties lacking in the top 6 inches, or is it minerals they require?

I saw an article out of Cork recently bemoaning their removal from the All-Ireland Junior Football Championship, this sums up the mentality of a once proud county who can't help but roll over for the annual belly ticking in the Munster Championship against their old rivals from Kerry.

I'm beginning to think at a deeper level there is just an apathy towards the GAA in the south, or at least an apathy towards rolling the sleeves up and becoming competitive, something that certainly can't be said of counties in the north, with the possible exception of Down.

Pathetic from Sligo, can't even get moved into Munster or Leinster to sort this out.

mup

Quote from: Armagh18 on May 31, 2022, 10:11:57 PM
Quote from: Turf on May 31, 2022, 09:12:34 PM
QuoteEach of these counties has a population greater than Monaghan and Roscommon, who more than hold their own within their province and nationally.
;D
Yeah Monaghan and Roscommon would really be putting it up to Dublin every year if they played in Leinster  ;D ;D ;D
They certainly wouldn't roll over and have their bellys tickled like all of Leinster does.

I'm sure if the GAA pumped millions into a particular county in Ulster you'd find the results would turn out similar.

tiempo

Even the ill conceived north/south divide in the Tailteann points to a general unwillingness in the south to put in the hard yards (or mileage in this case)

Counties in Leinster and Munster have given up believing and fighting to be competitive with the Dubs/Kerry, content to be a doormat on their procession to provincial domination and then ask for the goalposts to be moved so they can lower the bar for themselves

Its no surprise one of the few bright lights in Leinster are managed by a Tyrone man prepared to go outside his comfort zone

I would not be prepared to give up the Ulster or Connacht championship due to the apathy and excuse mentality in Leinster and Munster, they need to own it and in time change their ways

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM