China Coronavirus

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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

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Quote from: screenexile on March 14, 2021, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2021, 05:46:36 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 14, 2021, 05:38:00 PM
South have made a mistake suspending use of the Astra Zenica vaccine imo. Their vaccination programme has been woeful and this won't help.
Furthermore the fact that they didn't go an order vaccine from lots of different companies was a huge oversight. Not a good week for the government in the 26.

Is it not the EU who procure it?  I still think something fishy went on with UK and AZ, the fact that they have so many plants there just makes me suspicious that they aren't playing fair with EU or that Boris and the boys somehow turned the screw. I could be away off the mark

It is yeah and I think UK offered more to Pfizer and AZ than the EU would, which I'm sure is affecting availability.

Big Pharma aren't known for levelling the playing field or doing anything that isn't in their interest but paying extra to make sure you get first dibs makes sense when large parts of your economy are shut down!!

It does,if that really was the case, which it may well have been , just seems odd EU would not pay the big ding

Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 14, 2021, 09:17:54 PM
You'd think a continent like Europe would have better pull than the UK!

You would and you'd wonder about future long-term sales to EU. Long road and all that

armaghniac

Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2021, 09:39:17 PM
Quote from: screenexile on March 14, 2021, 09:10:19 PM
Quote from: Fear Bun Na Sceilpe on March 14, 2021, 05:46:36 PM
Quote from: trailer on March 14, 2021, 05:38:00 PM
South have made a mistake suspending use of the Astra Zenica vaccine imo. Their vaccination programme has been woeful and this won't help.
Furthermore the fact that they didn't go an order vaccine from lots of different companies was a huge oversight. Not a good week for the government in the 26.

Is it not the EU who procure it?  I still think something fishy went on with UK and AZ, the fact that they have so many plants there just makes me suspicious that they aren't playing fair with EU or that Boris and the boys somehow turned the screw. I could be away off the mark

It is yeah and I think UK offered more to Pfizer and AZ than the EU would, which I'm sure is affecting availability.

Big Pharma aren't known for levelling the playing field or doing anything that isn't in their interest but paying extra to make sure you get first dibs makes sense when large parts of your economy are shut down!!

It does,if that really was the case, which it may well have been , just seems odd EU would not pay the big ding

Pfizer have fulfilled a lot of orders to the EU, it is AstraZeneca that has been acting the maggot. You cannot criticise the EU for not ordering enough vaccine, they had similar plan to the UK with Pfizer and AZ and added a small amount of Moderna as well, but AZ aren't even going to deliver one-third of the amount. You can say that the EU could have paid more, but the issue is the AZ were happy to sign a contract at that price without any intention of actually delivering.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Smurfy123

No deaths in Ireland reported yesterday
Great news
We have to go back to early September almost 6 months

As expected on Tuesday the executive will move to phase 2 of the roadmap.
The right call

Last Man

This is interesting and easy to understand for the lay person.
https://youtu.be/ZJZxiNxYLpc

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Last Man on March 15, 2021, 08:58:56 AM
This is interesting and easy to understand for the lay person.
https://youtu.be/ZJZxiNxYLpc

Watched half of it there (some of us work  ;) ) its very much a case of hindsight and with a better approach we could have done a lot better, I would say if the experts were able to study the virus and its works before it spread then a world wide approach would have worked better. But the horse has bolted and we are unfortunately left with the debacle of lockdowns and continued waves of this pandemic.

The best approach would have been to shut things down on the island first and then find the best approach, hopefully going forward (if it every happens again) that they will learn from the many mistakes and be able to implement a better plan.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Last Man

Some of us get up at a decent time in the morning, we're not teenagers anymore!!

Smurfy123

So does all 9 sectors move to level 2 tomorrow?
That's the biggest question
Lowest numbers of cases in the wee 6 for 7 months
Will they throw us any curve balls tomorrow that's the question
The must move

bennydorano

See that India is experiencing another surge in cases.

Angelo

Quote from: bennydorano on March 17, 2021, 10:34:30 AM
See that India is experiencing another surge in cases.

Hardly a surge.

28k cases yesterday in a country with a population of 1.4bn.

29k cases in France with a population of around 70m.

So the case rate in France is currently 20x that of India. France has been in lockdown for months. India hadn't had a lockdown since last summer.



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sid waddell

Quote from: bennydorano on March 17, 2021, 10:34:30 AM
See that India is experiencing another surge in cases.
Yet another denier propaganda narrative falls by the wayside

The deniers can't explain Manaus either

Louther

Quote from: Angelo on March 17, 2021, 10:40:20 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 17, 2021, 10:34:30 AM
See that India is experiencing another surge in cases.

Hardly a surge.

28k cases yesterday in a country with a population of 1.4bn.

29k cases in France with a population of around 70m.

So the case rate in France is currently 20x that of India. France has been in lockdown for months. India hadn't had a lockdown since last summer.

This is just plain wrong. Indian had an initial lockdown that involved people been under curfew and not allowed leave their houses. This continued into the summer and was gradually lifted phase by phase under an unlock plan with lots of restrictions still in place including closure of all recreational places, schools, public transport etc etc. Much like rest of the world.

This unlocking phases also had containment zones where curfew was applied where cases spiked.

The schools only reopened in later part of the year. The dates for the phases of unlock (up to unlock 8) where often missed. Restrictions and mask wearing where always in place.

When they say they going into lockdown, they refer to curfews, people staying in their own homes etc.

They've always had restrictions like here and most parts of the world.

Angelo

A lot of misinformation here.

The "surge" in India is currently 1 case per 50k citizens.

In the UK where lockdowns restrictions are not starting to roll back it is 1 per 14k.

In the Free State it is 1 per 17k.

So the surge in India is not actually a surge at all and it has one of the lowest incident rates per population worldwide at all.

You really have to check the misinformation and misrepresentation of views out there.
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Angelo

Quote from: Louther on March 17, 2021, 10:54:33 AM
Quote from: Angelo on March 17, 2021, 10:40:20 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on March 17, 2021, 10:34:30 AM
See that India is experiencing another surge in cases.

Hardly a surge.

28k cases yesterday in a country with a population of 1.4bn.

29k cases in France with a population of around 70m.

So the case rate in France is currently 20x that of India. France has been in lockdown for months. India hadn't had a lockdown since last summer.

This is just plain wrong. Indian had an initial lockdown that involved people been under curfew and not allowed leave their houses. This continued into the summer and was gradually lifted phase by phase under an unlock plan with lots of restrictions still in place including closure of all recreational places, schools, public transport etc etc. Much like rest of the world.

This unlocking phases also had containment zones where curfew was applied where cases spiked.

The schools only reopened in later part of the year. The dates for the phases of unlock (up to unlock 8) where often missed. Restrictions and mask wearing where always in place.

When they say they going into lockdown, they refer to curfews, people staying in their own homes etc.

They've always had restrictions like here and most parts of the world.

Your post riddled with inaccuracies there.

Inidia's lockdown ended last summer. It has not gone back into Lockdown since.

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/05/indias-lockdown-ends-mental-health-crisis-beginning/

The fact you decide to give us a post stacked with misinformation to suit your bias is telling.



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Louther